(July 10, 2013 at 2:16 am)Consilius Wrote: Congratulations. You've made me do a lot of thinking. My head hurts.
To make a rock bigger than himself, God would have to create this rock and make it heavy by an authority higher than himself, which cannot be called upon because it does not exist. This authority would be God. Therefore, the rock can not exist.
God can not make something that can not exist. Such a creature would be illogical. The illogical cannot come from a being that is logical. Or else the being would be illogical and would cease to exist.
God cannot make himself not to exist because that would be self-contradictory, and, since God is truth, he cannot contradict himself. Also illogical and non-existent.
Something that does not exist cannot be done.
So by this logic, God DOES have limitations. He is bound by some set of external rules. And if something exists outside of God, he cannot be the ULTIMATE creator. There are forces that govern possibilities. God is bound by these forces just as you described. Omnipotence suggests an ability to defy all logic. Omnipotence suggests the ability to create impossibilities. But as our discussion has highlighted, the idea of omnipotence is paradoxical and therefore... illogical.
Omnipotence isn't logically possible. Therefore God has limits. Anything with limits is bound by external forces that place these limits. So God might be the creator of us, but he cannot be the creator of everything. With that in mind, the next logical question becomes: who/what created God?
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