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Religion and pleasure
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RE: Religion and pleasure
(July 27, 2013 at 11:50 am)ChadWooters Wrote: My take on the issue is that we all pursue happiness. In doing so we make choices. Biblical / spiritual guidance is about making the right choices.

I agree that spiritual guidance is about making right choices, but disagree that bible or any other form of mysticism is a good spiritual guide.

(July 27, 2013 at 11:50 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Hoarding money for the sake of having more than others excludes you from the pleasure of investing it and seeing it put to productive use.

You do understand that "investing it and seeing it put to productive use" does not automatically mean charity, right?

(July 27, 2013 at 11:50 am)ChadWooters Wrote: The pleasure you get from whoring around excludes you from the pleasure of having a loving and faithful relationship.

I disagree. I can have both.

(July 27, 2013 at 11:50 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Sinful choices are those stemming from a love of self that excludes others and an inordinate focus on sensuality. Sinful choices remove from consideration the dignity of self and others and the development of your own character. Pleasure in itself is not the problem. The problems come when our pursuit of pleasure is wrong-headed.

Disagree once again. I believe that it is only through love of self that you can moral choices. It is only when you love yourself that you'd understand that your need for happiness goes beyond mere sensuality. It is upon loving oneself that one realizes that his dignity, development and achievement cannot and should not be compromised.
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Religion and pleasure - by Lucanus - July 27, 2013 at 1:17 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by max-greece - July 27, 2013 at 1:36 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 27, 2013 at 1:39 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Cato - July 27, 2013 at 1:47 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Michael Schubert - July 27, 2013 at 2:16 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Kayenneh - July 27, 2013 at 2:31 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Godschild - July 27, 2013 at 3:06 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by littleendian - July 27, 2013 at 3:27 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Godschild - July 29, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Doubting Thomas - July 29, 2013 at 5:10 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 29, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Godschild - July 30, 2013 at 1:46 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Paraselene - July 27, 2013 at 3:15 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Kayenneh - July 27, 2013 at 6:19 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Consilius - July 27, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by kılıç_mehmet - July 27, 2013 at 8:16 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Esquilax - July 27, 2013 at 8:52 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 27, 2013 at 10:40 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by frankiej - July 29, 2013 at 4:35 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Walking Void - July 27, 2013 at 10:35 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Faith No More - July 27, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by kılıç_mehmet - July 27, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Esquilax - July 27, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Neo-Scholastic - July 27, 2013 at 11:50 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 27, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by kılıç_mehmet - July 27, 2013 at 12:10 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 27, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Angrboda - July 27, 2013 at 12:36 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 27, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Lucanus - July 27, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Lucanus - July 27, 2013 at 12:49 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Godschild - July 27, 2013 at 3:34 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 27, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Godschild - July 28, 2013 at 7:57 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 29, 2013 at 1:09 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Gilgamesh - July 27, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Kayenneh - July 29, 2013 at 2:53 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Esquilax - July 29, 2013 at 7:08 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Kayenneh - July 29, 2013 at 10:34 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Tonus - July 29, 2013 at 11:03 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Doubting Thomas - July 29, 2013 at 12:38 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by freedomfromforum - July 29, 2013 at 4:58 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Angrboda - July 29, 2013 at 5:31 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Doubting Thomas - July 29, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Lucanus - July 31, 2013 at 11:31 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Godschild - July 31, 2013 at 11:32 pm
R: Religion and pleasure - by Lucanus - August 1, 2013 at 3:36 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Godschild - August 1, 2013 at 4:55 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Faith No More - August 1, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Esquilax - August 1, 2013 at 8:46 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Lucanus - August 1, 2013 at 4:58 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Faith No More - August 1, 2013 at 8:51 am

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