RE: Religion and pleasure
July 30, 2013 at 1:46 am
(This post was last modified: July 30, 2013 at 1:53 am by Godscreated.)
(July 29, 2013 at 11:38 pm)genkaus Wrote:(July 29, 2013 at 4:28 pm)Godschild Wrote: The bold is what I'm speaking of. What you picked out is a general statement about what Christianity says. Sorry if it was misleading.
So, if I say that a lot of Christians do find pleasure in so-called 'sinful' acts, your reply would be...?
I would say you are right, they are living with sin and unrepentant sin can bring difficult times for Christians. Not to make a NTSM but a lot of so called Christians give the Christian community a black eye. I know there are probably few if any Christians who at on time or the other not found pleasure in sin, the Bible tells us that man finds pleasure in sin. It's being a Christian that will bring the conviction of the Holy Spirit and thus the need to repent, if one calls their self a Christian and is not bothered by sin I would question what they believe, then that's me. I've been guilty of finding pleasure in sin, but find conviction because of it. I never said we're perfect.
(July 27, 2013 at 3:06 am)Godschild Wrote: Going on bike trips and white water kayaking (use to be one of my favorites until I hurt my back), I can still canoe on calmer waters. I tournament fished for many years, I still hunt and do wood work. I know many Christians that are very active in things like marathon runs, hiking and ect.
DT Wrote:Guess what? We atheists can also enjoy those things, and at the end of the day enjoy a glass of beer or wine without feeling any guilt about it.
So can I, over indulging is the sinful part of drinking.
DT Wrote:Then we can also have sex with someone we're not married to but perhaps in a committed relationship, and not feel guilty about that, either.
Nope, off limits to Christians though many do, scripture gives us many reasons to stay pure before marriage.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.