(August 14, 2013 at 6:16 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Dandy, that. Just dandy. Live a life of unrelieved, horrific debauchery and have one second, just one split second of sincere repentance for the pain you've caused and the lives you've wrecked and you wind up in the bosom of God forever and ever Amen.
I find that utterly repugnant.
Boru
The whole idea of the confession and absolution of sins is based on that exact premise. Do as much sinning as you like, a priest says a few 'magic' words and you're good to go all over again. Lather, rinse, repeat.
(August 14, 2013 at 8:21 pm)Drich Wrote:(August 14, 2013 at 5:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But I'll be fair - name a natural event or phenomenon that cannot, positively CANNOT be explained by natural means. In other words, give us a verified phenomenon to consider whereby God is the only possible explantion. Take your time.Move the goal post much? Or do you simply not understand the nature of unknown phenomena? (which is what is actually being discussed.) Because again in order for you to accurately make the statement you did, you would not only have to know and accurately explain away all known Phenomena, you would also have to be able to account for all unknown phenomena as well. (Which again would make you God by definition, which brings us back to our paradox in your logic.)
Shift the burden of proof much? Because that's not at all what Brian said here.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'