RE: "Homosexuality is a choice" and its paradox
August 20, 2013 at 2:24 am
(This post was last modified: August 20, 2013 at 2:27 am by Whateverist.)
(August 19, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Godschild Wrote: The gays who decide to be Christians are to withhold their desires according to scripture, actually Scripture calls for all gays to withhold their desires.
I guess you mean for gay people in general. But if it was your kid, would you really give them the choice or would you insist that they be Christian? Somehow I can't picture you laying the choices out there even handedly if it was your son that was gay.
(August 19, 2013 at 11:14 pm)Godschild Wrote:Quote:Trust me, no one here much cares what the bible has to say on the subject.
I know that! I do however and I'm stating what I believe and will conduct my life by what it says.
It is fine for you to make that choice for yourself. If you insist on making the rest of us live in a bible based country, then level headed discussion isn't an option. Every non-theist needs to lose their tolerance and become an anti-theist if theists motivated as you are become too numerous.
(August 19, 2013 at 5:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: So, it's okay to be a Christian just do not believe in what it stands for, is this the way religion's suppose to be treated in the U.S. Is this what you are stating, 'you can have all the religion you want in this country it's your constitutional right, but you can not express what you believe to be true.'
Express? No problem. Believe? No problem. Foist it on your kids? Okay. Foist it on my kids? BIG problem. You talk of freedom but it is the freedom to constrain and outlaw the freedom of others that you have in mind. Yes your freedom does end where it requires another to give up his, gay or not.
(August 19, 2013 at 5:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: Sounds like a sweet deal for you and your ilk. You have no qualms with Christians as long as they stay in their place keeping their opinions and speech to themselves, this what you call a free society, freedom is okay as long as it doesn't infringe on your beliefs, this what you desire. Well I can get motivated myself when pushed, you have no right to say how I can vote on issues and you will not push your beliefs on me and those who stand with God.
Geez, listen to yourself. It is like I am talking to a member of the Taliban. Why is it so unreasonable to expect you to be content with the freedom to live your life as you see fit? Why should those who want no part in your religion be coerced by you and yours to also live as you see fit? You are not being reasonable.
(August 19, 2013 at 5:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm saying Christians should uphold the laws of the land as long as they do not go against God's law.
You lack any perspective on the basic unfairness of what you want. You want the law to back you up in pushing for what you want - essentially a Christian nation - while opting out of any law that doesn't go your way. Fundamentalist Christians seem no more ready for democracy than fundamentalist Muslims. I'm a non-theist when it comes to religious practice generally but I think I must be more assertively anti-theist regarding fundamentalists of all stripes.
(August 20, 2013 at 12:45 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Do you think it's right to force others to follow Christian law?
Obviously he does. Respect his freedom but screw yours if you're not with God.
