What Is The Point Of Prayer?

[discipulus]

Of course it does.

You do not determine what is justified for someone else.

Err, then how does rape or murder constitute as being unjustified when it starts interfering with the individual choices of another? Sure, a rapist justifies raping people, but how does the victim recompense for the actions made against them by another person?

This is where I get lost when comprehending your stance.

I don't quite understand what you are asking.

Forceful copulation happens all the time in nature. Mating is something animals naturally do by instinct. That is how species are perpetuated. On a naturalistic view, the lion that kills a zebra does not "murder" the zebra. The shark when it mates with another shark does not "rape" the shark.

If we are animals, then ideas such as "rape" and "murder" are simply the results of certain socio-biological pressures that have programmed our brains to regard certain acts as potentially disadvantageous to our survival as a species. Certain actions may not be socially advantageous and over time have had a certain stigma attached to them.

So the rapist or the murderer when acting according to his particular disposition, is simply acting in a manner that we have been programmed to think is not really advantageous to our survival.

That's as far as anyone can go in critiquing such people.

It is definitely not hard to think of situations where forcing a woman to have sex with you would be necessary in order to ensure the survival of our species. In such a situation, rape would then be good and morally obligatory according to the one who believes our sense of right and wrong are biological apaptations that aid in survival.

But then on such a view, rape becomes a moral obligation we must fulfill. But surely this goes against our deepest moral intuitions as humans...and as such this view is not tenable.