"Homosexuality is a choice" and its paradox

[Godscreated]

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No I'm not. In my state gay marriage is not allowed and we're not alone in this matter most states do not allow gay marriage. In those states that do allow gay marriage it has come by vote and that vote was pushed by the gay community.

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So, your response to an accusation of ignorance is to display even more ignorance? The changes in laws to allow for gay marriages have come primarily through litigation, then legislation and then popular vote. The LGBT community doesn't need to initiate a popular vote movement because challenging the law via litigation is a much better option - which is why it rarely does so. Its the Christian community that tries to change the laws by appealing to public opinion.

Everything you just described is by vote and yes they do appeal to the populace, if they did not they would never get it legalized, the Christian community is voting it's belief a right established over 200 years ago.
You can bet the Christian community did not push this agenda, so who's left, homosexuals.

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If you want to stand for gay marriage that's okay with me and it's my right to stand against it and in all this discussion that's all I've been trying to say.

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The right to stand for or against it shouldn't be available to anyone - that's what I've been trying to say. We don't argue over whether we stand for or against heterosexual marriage or someone's right to work. The question of whether or not to allow it shouldn't come up at all - it should be allowed, period.

Are you crazy people have the right to stand for whatever they want. You in this statement are disallowing homosexuals the right to pursue marriage. The last part of your statement is completely opinion, which is fine, but you will find many who do not agree with you.

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I would be against gay marriage if I wasn't a Christian, so my Christianity does not change how I see this issue, it is in my opinion unnatural and I do know non Christians who feel this way.

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Yes, I get that people can be bigots without religion. I get that you are a bigot and that you are not a bigot simply due to your religion, but your religion simply provides a handy excuse for your bigotry.

Bigotry contains and as I've stated in these discussions I do not hate gays, so you can come off your attitude for what I see as unnatural.

These people would vote against gay marriage without religious conviction, so would you also deny these people their right to express their views through the vote.

Where the issue in question is civil liberties - yes, I would.

So you're a socialist, one who would dictate to people what is right and wrong regardless of how the people feel, this is America and we decide by the vote.

GC

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I've already explained to GC the evolutionary benefits of homosexuals somewhere else on this forum, in fact I think I explained it 2 more times to other people on other threads. He did not reply or refute. Anyway, that unnatural argument needs to stop, it's almost on par with the ignorance that is creationism and is blatantly dishonest when you're using a freaking computer to access a forum on the internet.

Sorry but that's is a very stupid statement at the least, and yes homosexuality is unnatural.

GC