(August 23, 2013 at 2:23 am)bennyboy Wrote:(August 22, 2013 at 11:04 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Agreed, which is why rather than hearing about how unnatural it is, I'd rather hear arguments about why homosexuality is immoral, preferably without recourse to religion at all. "God says so," isn't a great argument in a supposedly secular government, after all; is there even a single non-religiously motivated argument for denying this right?I think you could argue that the privilege of accepting your parents' investment in you (i.e. by making you) gives you some moral obligation to match that investment with one of your own. Hearing, "Ewww girls are icky" isn't very encouraging for parents hoping for grandchildren.
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No it doesn't. No one chooses to be born, so we are not responsible for whatever our parents have thought out for us. I wonder if you'd say the same thing about parents who don't want grandchildren, that we're obligated not to have children for them? There are those, my parents do not want grandchildren.