(August 26, 2013 at 5:02 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:(August 26, 2013 at 4:50 pm)StuW Wrote: Regardless, as stated earlier, you keep saying cause and effect, but that is a property of THIS universe and doesn't necessarily apply OUTSIDE this universe foregoing the need for something from nothing.
I didn't say God was nothing I said God (who is something) created the universe from nothing. The universe began to exist all things that begin to exist have a cause, logic, reason, you're supposed to like this.
Yup...here we go. I'm gonna break it down for you here. Let's start with your chicken example which you didn't understand at ALL when you used it.
Chicken
Egg
omelette
Baseball player
Ball, Bat, Park
Homerun
Daddy and Mommy
Sperm and seed
Baby
Carpenter
Wood
Table
God
(blank)
Universe
Do you understand now? Your argument might as well just show that "stuff exists, and used to be other stuff" QED. You are missing your point by a LONG shot.
