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Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
(August 26, 2013 at 4:31 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Ok here's my work.

1) Everything that begins to exist has a cause

2) The universe began to exist

3) Therefore, the universe must have a cause

Any questions?

The unstated assumption is that god did not begin to exist. This throws a massive wrench into your calculations, so you simply make an exception for god. This doesn't explain how a being who must be indescribably complex could just always be there. Trying to dismiss this problem by shunting him off into a magical realm simply makes the problem worse.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong? - by Tonus - August 26, 2013 at 5:58 pm

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