(August 29, 2013 at 12:10 am)ronedee Wrote: We have the choice. Do you want eternal life? Yes or No?
Actually, no I don't, because by definition eternity is a long enough stretch of time for everyone to become suicidally bored of every thing. Can you imagine your trillionth go at doing any one activity? Can your mind even properly wrap around how much a trillion is?
Quote:No. Abusive is wrong. God is Good!
Well, okay: something here is wrong. Either god's actions aren't the same as the ones depicted in the bible, or your assessment of god is wrong. Because they can't both be right.
Quote:But, he won't take abuse from us either! Just like I wouldn't take abuse from my children. If I couldn't help them with love and understanding, I would put them out of my house, and life if necessary.
Would you do those things just because they didn't love you? Let's expand the scope a bit: would you do it if they said they didn't love you, at four years old? Because there are plenty of dead four year olds sans salvation. If they said they didn't love you, would you burn your kids forever?
See, the issue is that the things you're describing are vastly out of synch with what hell is.
Quote:Well, as i said... wouldn't you want to see what it is He has to offer? I mean, it's free too! Free is Good?
Let's add in the things that, again, you aren't saying: would I want to see what the god of the bible has to offer? I don't know: would you enter into any kind of relationship with an admitted omnicidal murderer who is, to this day, proud of the act? If you knew I had a basement full of fire that I occasionally toss people into, would you want to know what I had to offer?
Quote:Is it so bad to say: "I don't know?" Rather than; "There is no God"?
You've clearly been ignoring the majority of us explaining that we do believe the former point, to every theist who comes to us with the same misconception.
I think the difficulty you have is that you're mistaking neutrality for a willingness to accept every argument that comes our way. It's not: we can recognize and eviscerate bad arguments and still remain neutral to all possibilities. In fact, most of us are.
Quote:Does it hurt so bad to open your mind to that possibility?
Get back to us once you've considered the possibility that your god might not be real, eh?
Quote:All we need do is ask Him in all sincerity! The answers come.
Where's that circular reasoning meme when you need it?
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