Trinity

[Godscreated]

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If the OT is not about the coming of Christ then how did the Israelites know He was coming, they were in great anticipation of His coming, please give references to where their knowledge of Him came from.

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GC

They didn't, that is all scripture twists to cover a hole.
The jews strongly deny all of your claims.
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles...sandjesus/
The word “Messiah” is an English rendering of the Hebrew word “Mashiach”, which means “Anointed.” It usually refers to a person initiated into God’s service by being anointed with oil. (Exodus 29:7, I Kings 1:39, II Kings 9:3)

Since every King and High Priest was anointed with oil, each may be referred to as “an anointed one” (a Mashiach or a Messiah). For example: “God forbid that I [David] should stretch out my hand against the Lord’s Messiah [Saul]...” (I Samuel 26:11. Cf. II Samuel 23:1, Isaiah 45:1, Psalms 20:6)

Where does the Jewish concept of Messiah come from? One of the central themes of Biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Isaiah 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34)

Many of these prophetic passages speak of a descendant of King David who will rule Israel during the age of perfection. (Isaiah 11:1-9; Jeremiah 23:5-6, 30:7-10, 33:14-16; Ezekiel 34:11-31, 37:21-28; Hosea 3:4-5)

Since every King is a Messiah, by convention, we refer to this future anointed king as The Messiah. The above is the only description in the Bible of a Davidic descendant who is to come in the future. We will recognize the Messiah by seeing who the King of Israel is at the time of complete universal perfection.
etcetera ..

Of coarse they deny Christ was foretold in the OT, they were looking for a warrior King like David, yet Christ was never described that way.

In 1st Samuel 26:11 the word was used as a description, anointed king, by David not God. The same word ids used in the OT as anointing unleavened bread, so the way you want to use the word even bread is a messiah. Think you need to rethink the usage of this word, anointed by oil is not the same as anointed by God. The word in general means anointed which applies to kings, priests, bread, feet and ect. Jesus was anointed by the Holy Spirit from the Father, he was also anointed a couple of times with oil, once on His head and once on His feet.

The future age of perfection can be seen in two different ages, one when Christ lived the perfect life on earth and the second is the new creation of the world where those who are saved will live.

Psalm 22 is about Christ's trial and crucifixion, so how do they explain that away.
Psalm 110 is also about Christ, king David says "The Lord says to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool." the rest of the psalm describes Christ and the judgement.

We can go back to the Passover feast and see Christ represented in the lamb and the forgiveness of sin for all who accept the Lamb. The blood on the door post and the command by God not to break even one bone of the lamb is the foretelling of Christ as the sacrifice for man.
Zech. 12:10-13:1 is about Christ and His redemption.

You can go on and on about one word (anointed), but it will not suffice, the word is what it is, Christ is the One anointed by the Holy Spirit. There are many more verses that refer to the coming of Christ, but I think these few will show the prophecy of Christ in the OT.

You have like many others here relied on the net as your source and it fails, God's word is where you should go if you are to find the truth within it. The study of scriptures reveals a world of truth.

GC

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Actually your boy never claims to be god. The closest he gets - and for this one has to accept the shit written in your gospels - is in gjohn - worst of the 4 for silliness - where he equates himself to god.

Have you ever read this shit? Doesn't seem like it.

Your godboy calls himself the "son of man." Which seems like a huge step down. Fuck. I'm the son of man and you know what I think of your bullshit.

He called himself Son of Man to show that He was both God and man, Christ also said He and the Father were one, seems rather clear to those who can see.

GC

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If the trinity has always existed, why didn't the pre-Jesus Jews know about it? Why is the Holy Ghost suddenly active in the lives of believers when John started Baptizing people? Why did he suddenly decide baptism was necessary? Jews didn't seem too concerned with it before. How do you know there are only three emanations of god? Why cant there be four? The Holy Quad sounds much cooler than "Trinity". Does Moses' burning bush not count?

They did know about the Holy Spirit, He is mentioned in the OT. The Holy Spirit dwelt with certain men in the OT for a short period of time, but not their whole life. The Holy Spirit was and is for those who accept Christ as savior, He is our counselor.

GC