(August 31, 2013 at 11:33 pm)ronedee Wrote: Then...why do "we" exist? Why does anything exist?This may be the most dangerous part of religion, in my mind. The idea that life has some kind of greater meaning that can only be fully attained after our life is over. It gives people a reason to live a simple and complacent life regardless of circumstances and to avoid ambition or the motivation to constantly improve themselves and their lifestyle. Far too many people give up on the only life they'll ever have because they think there's a much greater life that will begin when they die. That's tragic, IMO.
What you are saying is there is no [reason] for life, except to die. And that there was no basis we are brought into being.
ronedee Wrote:To a logical person, that should make no sense at all. There is always a reason (cause & effect)....some reasons we aren't sure of. So we search.There is no reason why it should be logical to expect there to be some greater, overarching meaning to the existence of the universe, or of Earth, or of humanity. As we search for the "how" of the universe it is possible we will uncover a "why." But making up a "why" because we don't understand the "how" is not a way to make progress, it's just a shortcut, and it can be an obstacle towards a better understanding of our world and universe.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould