(September 5, 2013 at 3:36 pm)old man Wrote: Simple logical deductions show that only by truly valuing these two commandments above all other opposing commands, doctrines, forces and influences that would have us place an inferior value to ourselves on others, shall we ever find no reason to deceive and offend anyone. Simple logical deductions also show that only by truly valuing the man who first gave us these greatest of all commandments, above all other men and gods, shall we seriously value His commandments above all other opposing commands, doctrines, forces and influences also; and only by living always by His commandments shall any of us begin to find no reason to deceive and offend anyone including ourselves.
That entire paragraph is mere greasy sophistry. Lots of big words --- no content.
old man Wrote:If however you cannot believe that the world lives by lies and has seduced us, even coerced us at times, into lying and living by lies, then God's greatest commandments and doctrine will, I fear, have no effect on you.
Ok, pay attention old fool -
The reason why your so-called commandments have no effect on us has nothing to do with the "seduction of the world." There is only one reason that your god's commandments have no effect: You see, we don't live by the words of uneducated goat herders and self-proclaimed prophets of whom didn't even know that they lived on a sphere floating around a star. We have chosen not to accept your chosen deity, the same way we have chosen not to accept the various gods of the rest of the world.
This never works ..... hmmmmm ....
Let me try explaining this another way for the sheep ....
Imagine, one day a man walks out of his house and tells you that the ultimate god of the entire universe has just spoken to him through a cactus on his back porch. He proceeds to tell you that it was not the voice of the god jehovah, but rather the voice of the one true god who created the entire world and all of mankind. You of course tell him that he's very confused and should quite possibly see a mental health physician. This only strengthens the man's resolve to show you the truth about what he has heard from the plant on his porch.
Day after day, month after month, he adamantly tries to convince you that your god jehovah is a false god and that the one true god is going to be very vengeful if you do not convert to his god. The man proceeds to tell you of "miracles" that only he has witnessed and yet still you serve the god that you know to be true. It's 2013 and science disproves all of his so-called miracles and yet still he persists. You become very angry even though you have found that there are now others who have accepted this new god of his.
Ten years have passed, and this neighbor of yours has now created a small religion that swears they serve the one and only true god. All the while you can't believe that anyone would turn away from the religion they were taught from birth. The animosity eventually comes to a head and in a fit of rage his followers kill you and your entire family because their god told them it was the only thing to be done.
That story is absurd - I mean seriously, I know -- it's a ridiculous story.
....And yet you have no problem believing it as long as it happened 2000 years ago and you're the man with the Moses vision and not the Egyptian living next door. You rattle on about commandments and laws from a god who simply replaced some other god and the god before that and before that and so on back to the dawn of man. And what is your great basis for all this? A single solitary book written by dozens of authors, over a span of hundreds of years, half of which can't agree with the others and chocked full of supernatural fairy tales that any outsider would scoff at the same way you scoff at the fairy tales of other religions. Meanwhile, every religion has an old book full of your precious commandments to live by and still the most you can offer us is to simply have faith in the ramblings of desert nomads who's sole accomplishments were sleeping with their own family members and keeping sand out of their buttcracks.
One has to be a complete fucking imbecile not to see this. You are living your pathetic life based on the scribblings of a bunch of nutbags, wannabe prophets, and outright liars who convinced a bunch of other halfwits to kill and be killed for a god that has no more significance or power than the thousands of gods before him.
Anyway -
We don't ignore your god's commandments because the "world has tricked us." We ignore your god's commandments because it's just stupid.