RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
September 9, 2013 at 3:48 pm
(This post was last modified: September 9, 2013 at 3:59 pm by Godscreated.)
(September 9, 2013 at 7:59 am)Tonus Wrote: Matthew 7:13 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Jesus claims that "many" will be destroyed and "few" will be saved.
I do not know if this is meant for me, but I'll respond just in case. I know that more will be in hell than heaven, I understand the verses you have quoted, I've never denied those verses. I'm always sad when I read those verses because I understand how easy it is to listen to the calling of the Father through the Holy Spirit. I also understand how self can get into the way. What I also believe is that God only promises to call once and, that is grace, if He calls more than once that is grace multiplied. I'm grateful that God multiplied grace to me.
(September 8, 2013 at 12:37 am)Godschild Wrote: I wasn't trying to brush you off, I was trying to let you know that you are responsible for your belief, if someone is serious about finding the truth of God I'm always willing to help. But when one gets brushed off as much as the Christians do here, we can become less caring because of the experience. Sorry that I came off as brushing you off.
Tonus Wrote:No worries, I wasn't offended by it. I am aware that you guys get a lot of abuse here and as I have stated in the past, I have no issue if you decide to dish it out as well.
Thanks for understanding, I do at times spout off when I feel or know I'm being targeted. I shouldn't but at times the human nature takes over. What I find though, the ones who dish it out to Christians rarely can take what's returned at them and it definitely shows in their words. Again thanks for your understanding.
GC(September 9, 2013 at 2:24 pm)apophenia Wrote:(September 8, 2013 at 8:48 pm)Godschild Wrote: You're responsible for your actions and non actions. Lack of belief want hold water at the judgement.
Are you saying that you believe in salvation through works rather than salvation through faith?
No, scripture definitely says that salvation come by grace through faith. I've always taken this stand and will always take this stand, works are a response by those who are saved.
What I meant by being responsible for one's actions or non actions is one doesn't have to do anything to recieve eternal punishment.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
