The bible identifies the Christ as a False Prophet

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As we have discussed before I'm not one who lives by nor attain truths by suppose, suppose did not happen so let's take it as it is.

I went and studied these verses and the same in both Mark 8:31-9:1 and Luke 9:21-27. This is what I've been trying to get across when I've said the scriptures need to be studied to find the reality within them, I was guilty of not taking my own advise in this case.

The verses you put in bold and the same in Mark and Luke are about Christ's return in the future. However the last verse in all three passages of each book is speaking of the resurrection and ascension. Like I said before, the Kingdom is the church, this is why some would not see death before it came into it's power. The church grew rapidly after the Pentecost, the receiving of the Holy Spirit. Christ had to rise from the grave before the church, Kingdom, could begin, this is what Christ meant in the last verses of each passage, He would rise into His Kingdom.
Matthew 24:36 Christ says"However, no one knows the day or the hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows. This is probably after His statement in Matthew 16, Mark 8 and Luke 9, but whether it's before or after Christ would not contradict what He said. And for those who believe the writers made an error, well IMO they couldn't be that dumb, remember these passages were translated many times don't you think people would have noticed such mistakes if they occurred.

GC

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Very clever

So verse 27 is talking about the second coming and the next verse is talking about the establishment of the Church (which, of course, happened first). Kinda confusing don't you think - seems to have caught us both out for a while there.

No, I think it's quite appropriate, we are speaking of Jews and they never believed Jesus would die until He was actually crucified. They were always thinking He would reveal who He was and put an end to their oppression, they still did not understand at this point in Christ's ministry it's true purpose. The church at this point was a true mystery to them, not until the day of Pentecost and their filling by the Holy Spirit were they able to see and understand the spiritual kingdom. All they really understood about Christ at this point was, He would establish an earthly Kingdom, this is the one the Jews are still waiting on.

From verse 28, however "....some who are standing here will not taste death before..." Now it seems to me that the period of time between Jesus speaking and his resurrection would have to be short.

The time at this point was probably a year give or take a little time.

Some who are standing here? All, surely - except Jesus himself. Have we stumbled on a in-joke that only Jesus would have gotten?

Well I wouldn't call death a joke, but yes Christ knew when each of them would die. I think He deliberately kept from them how soon some of these things would take place, He loved them and didn't want to worry them IMO. If it's worth anything.

GC

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And for those who believe the writers made an error, well IMO they couldn't be that dumb, remember these passages were translated many times don't you think people would have noticed such mistakes if they occurred.

GC

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That is one of the most ignorant things you've ever said. Don't agree with me? Read this:

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/p...tions.html

But I know you won't. You'd never put your faith on the line.

But you should.

Biased crap, no need to read it. That's not much of a call, most of you do not read scripture and ascertain things for yourselves, you just copy others work and play follow the leader, you're an unthinking dude.

You can't destroy my knowledge of God nor my faith in who He is, Christ said do not be afraid of those who hate you, they can only destroy the body, it's temporary I will get a new one.

GC