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Scientific method proves order cannot exist w/o intelligence
RE: Scientific method proves order cannot exist w/o intelligence
(January 19, 2010 at 6:40 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So from this I conclude that the alternator is not charging properly.

Now by your criteria I am only assuming that this is the case.
Of course you are only assuming that this is the case. There are plenty of other explanations, some of them even logically valid! Here are a few:

1) The multimeter isn't working.
2) You misread the value.
3) Your knowledge about the charging volts is wrong.
4) God was interfering with the measurement (here we go into slightly logically invalid, but an explanation nonetheless).
5) X was interfering with the measurement (replace X with anything that can interfere with the measurement).

Your conclusion might be the right one, it might even be the most likely explanation, but don't kid yourself that "most likely" equates to "right".
(January 19, 2010 at 7:31 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: So essentially you are saying there is no such thing as 'truth'? Only what is observable??

I can live with this....Worship (large)
My view is that there is such a thing as truth, otherwise the operation of the universe would be impossible. Something, at some time, has to "be", has to "happen". My contention is that we are unable to know these truths, only make educated deductions in hopes of finding a possible explanation that fits.

The observable is hardly truth, given that there are no methods of confirming whether what we observe is real. For instance, imagine you see a cat in the middle of a room. You can say "I observe a cat". A million friends of yours can come in and say "I observe a cat too". You can point a machine at the cat that outputs "DATA OBSERVED. SUBJECT: CAT", yet at no point can you know for certain that everyone who sees the cat isn't just hallucinating, or that the cat is some illusion or anomaly, or that the machine used isn't being faulty and confirming something which appears to be there but actually isn't.

Observation sucks Wink
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RE: Scientific method proves order cannot exist w/o intelligence - by Tiberius - January 19, 2010 at 10:48 am

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