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Scientific method proves order cannot exist w/o intelligence
RE: Scientific method proves order cannot exist w/o intelligence
(January 19, 2010 at 4:19 pm)rjh4 Wrote: You presuppose that matter and energy are all that exists and build your world view around that with absolutely no way of being able to verify it as true.
Science does nothing of the sort. When evidence of god is found he will be absorbed in naturalism. Like a Purple Rabbit from the 26th dimension will...if evidence was found.

(January 19, 2010 at 4:19 pm)rjh4 Wrote: I am not trying to make the picture. God has already done that through the Bible which indicates some of the things that happened in the past, e.g., God created the universe, man sinned and the consequence was a fallen man and universe, there was a global flood, Jesus came into the world to live a perfect life and then to take the punishment that man deserved because of his (man’s) sin, and then rose from the dead.
A purple rabbit from the 26th dimension accidentally created this universe. You're so sure about your story. Then proof me wrong on this or crawl back in your iron age illiteracy.

(January 19, 2010 at 4:19 pm)rjh4 Wrote: There is no need to reinterpret that which God has already interpreted for me.
If you rely on blind faith only that is. If you look around in this place it tells another story.

rjh4 Wrote:The fact is, you want to test God by your standards instead of subjecting yourself to His standards.
The fact is that you are making wild assumptions. A person that has no believe in your specific fermented immoral god concept or in any god concept at all has no reason whatsoever to want anything from your god. For to him this god does not exists. And in general it is not very fruitful to want anything from entities that do not exist. By this same reasoning you are just testing the Purple Rabbit in the 26th dimension with your bible crap. You should know better and kneel before me now. Hurry up and sacrifice your son to me if you have one.

rjh4 Wrote:You think you are a higher authority in the universe than the creator of it. You can do that but in the end, you will still be subject to His standards and you will be without excuse. See Romans 1:18-32. You see, this passage of the Bible indicates pretty clearly that everything in the universe points to God and that while everyone knows this (it is self-evident), some, like yourself, suppress this knowledge (hence no excuse).
If you are speaking on behalf of that alleged authority then proof that to me. But keep in mind that I shut the door on snakes oil salesmen.

(January 18, 2010 at 1:48 pm)theVOID Wrote: I understood which laws Adrian was talking about. I just did not get the proof and you have not helped. You have merely made a statement that is unsupported in and of itself. So that is your alleged proof? That is no proof. Remember, this whole line of argumentation began when I said that all proofs go back to some unprovable premises. Adrian said I was wrong and cited the proof of the laws of logic. I have yet to see any proof or argumentation showing that I was wrong. Note, I am not trying to say that they are not true. I am merely saying that we take them as self-evident without any proof.
So what is your problem with unprovable premises? The thing is that science works. Ever been in a hospital? Your god cannot count to two for me. Eons of theology have brought us zilch. Well almost zilch, it brought us more theology. Science fights kid cancer since your god is too miserable to lift a finger. He really is the prototype of the bystander doing nothing at all. In my country that's a felony. Did you know that prayer has a slight detrimental effect on healing?

rjh4 Wrote:Logical proof???? I thought all truth claims in your world view needed to be established with the scientific method. Even at that, you have not proven that “anything with an attribute exists in some form”…you merely take this as self-evident or definitional. This is not a proof.
Oh holy Rabbit, the guy doesn't know shit. Logic is part of science.

Dear holy Rabbit, free us from satanic circular bible thumpers with bananas as evidence.
Free us from the slavery of mind that they defecate.
Free us from the megalomania they radiate and from the abject moral of death they advocate.
And dear holy Rabbit, do not show yourself for the time being so they have to kneel for your virtual realism with their logic from ignorance.
Amen.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
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RE: Scientific method proves order cannot exist w/o intelligence - by Purple Rabbit - January 19, 2010 at 5:05 pm

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