RE: Evolution Trumps Creationism
September 27, 2013 at 1:29 am
(This post was last modified: September 27, 2013 at 1:46 am by Drich.)
(September 26, 2013 at 11:36 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: OK so basically when I was wavering in my faith and I did this and nothing happened, then did God want me to become an atheist?
I would say yes, if your core faith was toxic.
Think about it. If your core faith was not what God wanted for you, then why would He support it? Then You A/S/K the first step in building a strong faith is to wipe the slate clean. remove the failing structure, and start anew. To question every aspect of your faith and God and start laying down a solid foundation to begin anew.
The only problem with this is it is far too easy to build a structure that centers around self worship in place of your toxic faith. You may have A/S/Ked God to help you get to where your at, but if you stopped meaning you no longer Ask Seek or Knock (knock being the key) then you will never get to the place that had you begin your quest in the first place. Leaving you an atheist, not because God wants you to remain here, but because you have the ablity to choose to remain an atheist, and not come back.
(September 26, 2013 at 6:06 am)Esquilax Wrote: Well, okay, I get what you're saying, my question is why, if god already knew evolution was going to produce homo sapiens in the end, did he bother creating a pair of people from whole cloth in the garden at all? That seems really redundant.Homo sapiens in of themselves are not the end Goal. Man Made in the Image of God was the end Goal. Meaning Man with a soul. Homo sapiens are the terestial vechical in which Man Made in the Image of God reside in this life, in this world. Why? To test the heart of the soul of man. So we know where we truly want to spend eternity.
Quote:My second question is, what is your basis for claiming this?The same source material that establishes the creation account to begin with.
Quote: Aside from the fact that there's no concrete numerical timeline in the bible, what actually points toward this being true, not just not definitely false?What I said, is just one possiable way this world could have come together. One that incoperates Creation and Evolution.
Quote:Oh, better yet, what real world evidence are you using to come to this conclusion, or is it really the kind of ad hoc apologetics it smells like?There is no apologetic here. The only thing that even could be considered an apologetic is the fact that I said there is not time line between gen 2 and 3.
I simply took that fact that there are fossils, and reconciled them with what has been written and know to be true.
If your looking for absolute undeniable proof, you'll never have it. Not in this life, for if you did you would not truly have a choice(Heaven or Hell), and that is what this life is all about.
What I've said here simply takes the 'absolute' out of the theory of evolution. Now it does have to be this unresolveable undeniable faith breaking obstical for those who wish to believe. Evolution becomes a way for science to supliment scripture. It now can fill in the gaps.