RE: Scientific method proves order cannot exist w/o intelligence
January 20, 2010 at 4:58 pm
(This post was last modified: January 20, 2010 at 4:59 pm by rjh4 is back.)
(January 20, 2010 at 4:27 pm)chatpilot Wrote: Okay, you are ignoring the fact that I stated that when it comes to origins I was content with a simple I don't know. Of course in astronomy the most prevalent theory of the origin of the universe is that of the "Big Bang" and according to science this happened approximately 13.5- 14 billion years ago. Obviously there was no one around to physically observe this but there are tell tale signs in our universe itself that point to the occurrence of this event. The two main reasons astronomers have come to believe this is according to wikipedia:
The uncertainty range has been obtained by the agreement of a number of scientific research projects. These projects included background radiation measurements and more ways to measure the expansion of the universe. Background radiation measurements give the cooling time of the universe since the Big Bang. Expansion of the universe measurements give accurate data to calculate the age of the universe.
There are several theoretical and scientific models used to determine the age of the universe and most of it can be studied and researched if you choose to do so. All of these models have been formulated through direct observance of the cosmos and the remnants of the above mentioned event. Now as far as where the energy came from (first cause) to cause the big bang whether it was a singularity or not we are still looking into those things. That is the beauty of science! Just because we don't know for certain does not mean that we stop looking and call it god.
God is the easy way out to mans curiosities and life's most pressing questions. We don't know so it must be god. What was the first cause to a Christian? God!! What evidence do you have of that? Because the bible say's so and there could be no other explanation. That answer does not work for me.
Sounds like you are saying: "I don't know how the universe came to be...but many scientists believe it was forms in such a way because of X, Y, and Z. Because I cannot/will not believe God did it, I am resolved to either agree with the prevailing view of scientists or just say 'I don't know'."
If that is accurate, it is not much of a worldview to take seriously.
Do you think that truth, morals, logic are solely due to the genetics of a person and the electrical impulses in a person’s mind (possibly as a result of other causes, such as environmental ones)?
