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Scientific method proves order cannot exist w/o intelligence
RE: Scientific method proves order cannot exist w/o intelligence
(January 20, 2010 at 6:24 pm)chatpilot Wrote: Adrian said: "science is no way of knowing objective truths"

I disagree for one reason and that is that there are some truths that no matter how we choose to interpret them remain true, for instance what goes up must come down. If you throw a ball up as hard as you can it is an objective truth that the forces of gravity are going to act against the ball and force it back down. Subjectivity in this situation has no bearing since no matter what you believe that ball is still going to come back down.
Replace "ball" with rocket and I wouldn't like to see you in charge of a space program. Give something enough force and it can escape the pull of Earth's gravity. "What come up must come now" is a nice kindergarden phrase, but it doesn't hold any truth in it.

It is perfectly subjective because we are still observing the ball, and our observations are subjective. The laws we have to describe are also subjective, since there is no way of objectively holding them as truth. If the ball suddenly decides to float in mid-air instead of coming down, the law has been violated and is evidently not the truth!
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RE: Scientific method proves order cannot exist w/o intelligence - by Tiberius - January 20, 2010 at 7:06 pm

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