(September 30, 2013 at 11:44 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(September 30, 2013 at 10:42 pm)Airyaman Wrote: GOP? It seems both sides have a stake, and one side is certainly not compromising.
GOP: How about this?
D: Nope.
GOP: OK, what about this?
D: Nope.
All of the fuckers are responsible, but guess what? Many of them are just doing what their constituents voted for. The tea party people were voted into office by those who wanted TP ideals. The Dems likewise. If you don't like the results you'll have to change government to get rid of checks & balances.
The GOP is mad about losing the last election, which was largely about Obamacare. The law has past both houses of Congress, been signed by the President, upheld by the Supreme Court and vindicated by a landslide election of the president who campaigned on it.
I believe what they told us in 2004 was "we won, you lost, get over it".
Seems they don't take their own advice when the tables are turned.
So rather than respect the democratic process and campaign on this issue again in 2014 and 2016, which would be the responsible, civic-minded thing to do, they take hostages and threaten to burn everything down unless we overturn the democratic process and run the country to their liking.
How are they not completely at fault for this needless, manufactured crisis? On what basis do they have the right to burn the country down unless their demands are met?
Do you have any idea what would have happened if the Democrats did this in 2007 to W Bush? I believe "traitors" would be the word the GOP would have bandied around. In fact, we know this because the DID use that term when the Democrats tinkered with the idea of not funding the Iraq War, a move which would have been completely in line with normal Congressional function.
If Obama hadn't personally made his own changes to the law, you would have more of an issue here. He decided to exempt employers from the mandate for one year, and this is one of the compromises the GOP wants but the Dems and Obama are saying no. The GOP simply wants the delay to extend to all, not just employers, so why is this not acceptable?
Hate to say it, but this is the height of hypocrisy imo, as progressives are often complaining about how businesses get special treatment by the government while the people get shafted. Here Obama once again gives special treatment to businesses while the general public still has to buy insurance or face a fine. Why do you all balk at the GOP trying to extend the delay to all?