(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains how the universe came to be.That's really interesting. So does the Higgs boson exist and what caused the imbalance between matter and antimatter? Don't you see that your skyhook is making you claim you know everything? So what about supersymmetry? Is it real?
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains our consciousness and natural ability to comprehend the rest of creation.So how does this explain qualia? How did you verify this?
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains our ability to communicate.Bacteria communicate with chemicals, where is it exactly that god steps in? Is he a messenger boy?
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains our appreciation of music and beauty.So where exactly do I need your god in my appreciation of Steve Vai's Blue Powder?
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains why there is evil in the world, i.e., as a result or consequence of sin.So all Haitians, kids included are paying for sin? You're being immoral again. How did you verify this?
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains our generally innate morality (how I just know certain things would be wrong even if the law said otherwise...and I am quite sure most, if not all, people know the same thing as some point in their lives)Please elaborate on how he does this. And please elaborate how priests who are so close to god do it with children all the time. And what is the innate moral of a serial killer, is it divinely inspired? Have you ever really observed any innate morality or are you just talking abot behaviour?
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains how others can do things that are morally wrong and not feel anything (because of continued sin in their lives they kill their conscience so they do not think they do anything wrong).Doesn't this neutralize the argument above since hereby you've created innate morality and the lack of innate morality ending up with unverifiable statements that can go either way? And if this is true, how did you verify it?
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains or innate consciousness that we are not perfect (I know I know I am not perfect, and I do not know any that would say they are.)Seems repetition to me.
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains why science can even work at all (uniformity of nature...God upholds the universe in generally law like fashion)Have you checked all universes in the multiverse or are you just bluffing your way through?
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains why laws of logic are generally agreed upon and even when they are not they end up providing for the basis of disagreement.Please explain where god intervens in human communication to get us to agree on things. How did you verify this? And if he did, is it really agreement among people or just god's manipulation? Who is agreeing anyway? Is god agreeing with himself?
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains people's desire to be autonomous from God (sin).Empty argument. At this point you could have said the opposite and we wouldn't notice tthe difference in reality. How did you test this?
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains why people struggle to do what they know is the right thing to do.Why is it necessarily so that god is required in decision making? How did you verify that god is needed in decision making? Does this mean that atheists cannot make decisions regarding moral issues?
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains how people can sacrifice for others knowing it will have drastic consequences for themselves.It is observed with animals too. In my backyard the other day as a matter of fact. How do you know that your god intervened and can you show me where exactly and how in order to get this behaviour? And if he intervened why do you attribute such behaviour to people instead of to the god who manipulated man to act this way? How did you test this truth statement?
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains why people need/desire hope.How does it explain that?
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains the hope people can have.I hope you're right. QED
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: It explains how we can be right before God.
Circular. You're using the assumption of god to explain we should need an attitude towards god.
(January 22, 2010 at 10:20 am)rjh4 Wrote: I think my presuppositions get me pretty far!!!What a pitty. Try again.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0