(October 9, 2013 at 11:13 am)Sword of Christ Wrote:(October 9, 2013 at 10:36 am)Brian37 Wrote: I've gotten the argument "It's just God speaking in different languages". No. All human overlap of good behavior and bad behavior, cruelty and compassion, are all a result of our NATURAL existence, and are NOT the result of a club label.
We're a result of natural existence (the universe) but what is natural existence the result of? All things that begin to exist are caused by something that exists, it can't be what began to exist either circular logic gets you nowhere.
Are you saying you can only plug the whole of ignorance about how the big bang came about with the mega-complex, non-created "god-plug"?
Is it difficult to come up with any other explanation?
I know it's difficult to observe any pre-big-bang events... maybe even impossible. Even theorizing about such an event is complex and leads to wild speculation, but it can't be that difficult to contemplate the possibility that something happened without any thought or intent being poured into it?
Is it?