(October 14, 2013 at 2:45 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:(October 14, 2013 at 2:40 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: Neither did the universe.
So not 13.7 billion years old?
13.7 billion years old "as we know it" - since the expansion began. Standard cosmology doesn't claim creation ex nihilio. Even Krauss' "everything from nothing" hypothesis doesn't claim that there was truly "nothing".