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Abiogenesis is impossible
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 (October 14, 2013 at 1:50 pm)Tonus Wrote:(October 14, 2013 at 12:24 pm)snowtracks Wrote: the odds, what about the odds? like i said, you guys love the word 'nothing'. and that's what i'm getting to the question.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
 
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (October 14, 2013 at 2:47 pm)daandaan Wrote: its scientifically proven god doesnt exist .... No its not. Nothing can ever prove that god doesn't exist.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech  (October 14, 2013 at 2:45 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:(October 14, 2013 at 2:40 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: Neither did the universe. 13.7 billion years old "as we know it" - since the expansion began. Standard cosmology doesn't claim creation ex nihilio. Even Krauss' "everything from nothing" hypothesis doesn't claim that there was truly "nothing". (October 14, 2013 at 2:44 pm)snowtracks Wrote:(October 14, 2013 at 1:50 pm)Tonus Wrote: What are the odds of god being created by random chance out of nothing? wasnt god created?? he must be , becouse everything thats irriducably complex must be created...and god, beeing a creator himself, must be irriducably complex .
now, please tell us who created ur god, becouse all irriducably complex things r supposed to have a creator
so god beeing a creator himself , must be therefore even more irriducably complex.....so must have a creator. [/quote] haven't we gone beyond the cute little riddles? God is an effect. the principle of causality only applies to this U. like all the other physics.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
(October 14, 2013 at 2:49 pm)Rationalman Wrote:(October 14, 2013 at 2:47 pm)daandaan Wrote: its scientifically proven god doesnt exist .... how you reconcile reality with the fact that the buybull says the sun, moon and stars all dangle under giant body of water in the sky.??  (October 14, 2013 at 2:45 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: So not 13.7 billion years old? Nobody knows how old or finite/infinite the universe is. But it's 13.7 billion years since the Big Bang. When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
 (October 14, 2013 at 2:50 pm)daandaan Wrote: he must be , becouse everything thats irriducably complex must be created...and god, beeing a creator himself, must be irriducably complex .Even the creationist isn't using a term like "irreducible complexity." Quote:how you reconcile reality with the fact that the buybull says the sun, moon and stars all dangle under giant body of water in the sky.??Why are you equating all god concepts with the bible? I'm starting to feel for LionIRC if this is the kind of thing he has to respond to. |
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