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Converting from islam any help?
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RE: Converting from islam any help?
(October 16, 2013 at 12:22 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Stop contorting religious words until you can discern some meaning. Open your eyes and discover the truth for yourself.

I am willing to learn different perspective on words from different people.

We have to do charitable reading as well as critical reading. We have to try to find faults as well find truths. Be as charitable as possible. With the Quran it's more difficult. It seems something is totally disconnected from a previous few verses, but when you learn wisdom, when you ponder about life in it's complexity and simplicity, it is so obvious still. Still it so obvious even with little pondering about life, that even if I knew very little about life, you can make the connection of one to the next. So why can't people do it? It seems to me it's own explanation of why makes more sense than any other.

Still I haven't been able to articulate why I am inclined to Quran being revealed by God, because I am not sure.

I have to patient. I can't believe in it without critical analysis of why it might not be true but still I can't deny it being true without a sure explanation of why it isn't.

Still I can't say I don't care when I do care.

I may not be obligated to know whether it is true or not, but if it has drawn me into inclining towards the idea it will help me a lot and be a mercy and way of peace and remembering, then I can't really help it.

You all see me post problems and problems. Rayaan didn't want to get into a discussion of verses with me.

I am not a stubborn person. We may have learned a lot from one another if we had this discussion. It could've been a cool journey if Rayaan ended up solving the problems I had.

But I am learning. All I can say, I am learning. It maybe that many of the problems I found don't have a solution. But this hasty way of showing contradictions is not healthy I think.

If I do this with Quran, even if the Quran is false, and some person wants to share with me his perspective, I have to be able to do charitable reading but will not do be able to do so. Still I have to read the intention he means by words even if they are expressed in a none sense manner.

So if nothing at all, I might learn to distinguish knowing and not knowing, and ability to be charitable in reading as much as critical and balance each other, till I reach certainty, if I will ever do so.
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Converting from islam any help? - by Ilovemyself - October 11, 2013 at 6:48 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Darwinian - October 11, 2013 at 6:53 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Ilovemyself - October 11, 2013 at 7:04 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Captain Colostomy - October 11, 2013 at 6:54 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Kayenneh - October 11, 2013 at 7:56 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by pineapplebunnybounce - October 11, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Ilovemyself - October 12, 2013 at 10:46 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Psykhronic - October 11, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Minimalist - October 11, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Sword of Christ - October 11, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Fidel_Castronaut - October 11, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Sword of Christ - October 11, 2013 at 1:43 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by LastPoet - October 11, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Sword of Christ - October 11, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Bucky Ball - October 11, 2013 at 8:06 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Bad Writer - October 11, 2013 at 8:42 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Minimalist - October 11, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Airyaman - October 11, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Minimalist - October 11, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by pineapplebunnybounce - October 11, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Minimalist - October 11, 2013 at 2:29 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Tonus - October 11, 2013 at 3:03 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by KichigaiNeko - October 12, 2013 at 8:54 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Cato - October 12, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Ilovemyself - October 13, 2013 at 3:31 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Fruity - October 13, 2013 at 12:13 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by MysticKnight - October 16, 2013 at 6:42 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Faith No More - October 16, 2013 at 12:22 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by MysticKnight - October 16, 2013 at 3:29 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Faith No More - October 16, 2013 at 7:06 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by MysticKnight - October 17, 2013 at 6:48 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Brakeman - October 16, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by MysticKnight - October 16, 2013 at 7:20 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by paulpablo - October 16, 2013 at 8:08 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Bucky Ball - October 16, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by ThomM - October 16, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Aractus - October 17, 2013 at 8:06 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by sofia86 - October 21, 2013 at 12:31 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by pineapplebunnybounce - October 21, 2013 at 12:36 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Aractus - October 22, 2013 at 3:04 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by sofia86 - October 21, 2013 at 12:45 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Cinjin - October 21, 2013 at 1:05 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by sofia86 - October 21, 2013 at 3:59 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by pineapplebunnybounce - October 21, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by sofia86 - October 21, 2013 at 10:06 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by sofia86 - October 24, 2013 at 4:34 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by bladevalant546 - October 22, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Sword of Christ - October 23, 2013 at 8:22 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Aractus - October 23, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Mstricky - November 8, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Mister Agenda - November 8, 2013 at 1:16 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Cyberman - November 8, 2013 at 2:43 pm

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