RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
October 16, 2013 at 11:44 pm
(This post was last modified: October 16, 2013 at 11:59 pm by Godscreated.)
(October 16, 2013 at 5:18 am)Tonus Wrote: Yes, I am serious. I see many references to hell being "separation from god" but no specifics as to what it means. Are the souls of those people in a particular place, and what is that place like? And what is the basis for the claim?
Okay I was just wondering, first those souls you speak of will have physical bodies, even the lost will be raised from the grave. After their judgment they will be sent to hell, the place of eternal punishment. We are not told where hell will be, we are told it will not be reachable, no one will even be able to see hell, it will be completely isolated by God. Sealed away forever even from God Himself, those in hell will never experience the presents of God again, they will see Him at judgement and see what they forfeited and can only rant and rave about the lost love of God forever. Hope this helps, if not ask more questions, I'll try to answer them.

(October 16, 2013 at 4:52 pm)ThomM Wrote:(October 16, 2013 at 2:20 am)Godschild Wrote: Are you serious in your asking?
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Yes - you are making a claim - he is asking YOU to support that claim - do you have proof of the existence of Hell in any way?
SInce we accept the bible to be a group of FIctional Stories - please USE things for which YOU can provide real proof.
Example - there is NO proof that the christ ever really lived - there is NOT a single document that we have that can be dated to his supposed time that even mentions his name - none at all. THe New Testament - was not written by anyone during the supposed time of the christ - that can be proven as well. In fact - we do not actually know who wrote most of the bible - the original bibles were UNATTRIBUTED - and those names were added later. (Again - with NO proof of origin or authorship)
I didn't bring this subject up, I only wanted to let 'Lv72 know he had been lied to about what hell entails.
You are the one who believes it's fictional and that in no way of thinking proves it's fictional, so you'll have to live with your faulty reasoning.
I can say the exact same thing about many ancient persons, yet you accept them as historical figures, and why, because someone you admire said they were, even without writings from their supposed time or even an authors name.

(October 16, 2013 at 7:32 pm)Tonus Wrote: I think that duel revelation is when we find out who was the more accurate shot.
Death will reveal all, no unanswered questions after death.

God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.