RE: Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?
October 17, 2013 at 10:40 am
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2013 at 10:50 am by ronedee.)
(October 17, 2013 at 3:22 am)Esquilax Wrote:(October 16, 2013 at 8:23 pm)ronedee Wrote: What do you have to answer to? Is there a point to living any kind of "honest" life?
What do I have to answer to? The billions of other people on this planet, and the smaller group of those that I care about and want to be happy. The fact that you don't seem to see this as sufficient is the most telling thing of all.
You always read things [into] what I say that aren't there. Why have any conversation at all?
ASSume everything I say is from your dark, evil perspective and just go away.
(October 17, 2013 at 5:34 am)Tonus Wrote:(October 17, 2013 at 12:40 am)ronedee Wrote: Most of you did answer the first question. And interestingly enough, society (or pack) seems to form "reactions" to actions perpetrated! So, if society broken down (total chaos) then for many of you, so would your moral compass. That's probably true for a lot of Christians too! But when we (Christians) are held to a higher source, society is not our standard to live by.
But most Christians will also admit that they cannot possibly meet their own standard, due to the imperfection they inherited from Adam and Eve. Another reminder that the universe "with god" doesn't appear to work any differently than a universe without him. In spite of having a set of moral rules that cover everything from how you act to how you think, and which imply that your life is much better if you follow them all, Christians seem no less fallible than the godless immoral filth that surround them.
So where is the difference, I wonder? It seems to me that a Christian is just as likely to lie his way out of a difficult situation as anyone else, blaming it on "imperfection." And your average non-believer seems no more likely to brutally beat up an old lady than your average Christian, even if he thought he might get away with it. I am thinking that for many crimes (and for many "crimes") the likelihood that one or the other will commit it is not that different. The main difference would be in the justifications afterwards.
Agreed! But generalization isn't fair either! I think we need to really see the motives in a person to see the "real" person!
As an example... Both you and I will react instinctively to an old Lady being beat-up. We won't be weighing our beliefs or lack there of.
I've had two major events happen in my life that put my "goodness" on the line. One I actually saved someones life! It wasn't until days afterwards that I thought how I would've spiritually weighed my options!
So.... we are either essentially good, or not so good...Atheists or Religious! God has little to do with that descision.
Quis ut Deus?