(October 17, 2013 at 9:04 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: See the problem with de-nihilists, is this. They trust their conscience, but not its source. They form ethical systems based on reason without accepting the basis of the world's rational order. Its been 14 pages of "works for me" without any reflection on why it works. Nihilism is the logical conclusion of atheism. De-nilhism is the refusing to face that conclusion.
And if the answer to the question of the source is, currently, "I don't know," then the answer is I don't know. I know you christians love to plant your god into any gap in knowledge you can find, but don't mistake our honest lack of knowledge as a lack of reflection. The fact is, some of us- myself included- have been speculating as to why in this very thread; the fact that you don't like it, or don't accept our tentative conclusions yourself, doesn't mean they aren't valid enough, and it certainly doesn't obligate us to abandon them and move on to conclusions you do like because you aren't the arbiter of other people.
Even if we were to leave behind all the speculation done in this thread- not likely, because your weird self righteous rambling doesn't come close to cogency at any point- that wouldn't get us an inch closer to determining that your god must be the source of morals, and I think you know that. It's why you throw out this bullshit nihilism smokescreen, hoping to distract us from the fact that you haven't presented an argument once.
So congrats, Chad: your very best efforts don't even address the issue you seek to prove. Good thing you came up with the folksy portmanteau first, huh?

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