(October 17, 2013 at 9:58 am)Aral Gamelon Wrote:(October 17, 2013 at 1:57 am)Godschild Wrote: How could it be possible for the rich man to have expressed his desire for others not to be where he is without being there, not possible. We would have not had to go this long route around if you had just given your understanding to begin with. Getting atheist to give answers around here is like pulling hens teeth. Good to see you understand this parable and you put it in writing, want be able to use this as an excuse at God's judgement, you do know about God's judgement and excuses, right.It's entirely possible. Have you ever seen where an action is heading and instantly regretted it? In this moment with the prospect of being sent to a torturous realm one could certainly have expressed the want to warn others not to follow his fate.
GC
I'm not familiar with this bit about god and excuses, no. Preachers and thumpers around here are pretty cut and dry with the 'fact' that god will send me to hell.
As a non-believer I am thoroughly unconcerned with such statements.
The rich man understood before he died, why did he wait till it was to late? Because he's like the ones he wants to save from that place, Jesus said it wouldn't matter if they and he didn't listen to Moses they want listen to one who is experiencing eternal punishment.
I'm not try to convert you if that's what you're hinting at, that's God's business.

God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.