RE: What is the point of morality if you're a theist?
October 20, 2013 at 5:59 pm
(This post was last modified: October 20, 2013 at 6:12 pm by Sword of Christ.)
(October 20, 2013 at 5:11 pm)Forsaken Wrote: Doesn't that make your god kind of an asshole? Only a select few receive his grace?
Anyone who wants to receive it will receive it even Adolf Hitler.
(October 20, 2013 at 5:21 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I asked why god determined what was right and what was wrong.
If something is from God then it is good if something is against God it is human sin.
Quote:Whether he had any actual reason for doing so, something that serves a purpose here, or whether he was, as my earlier example showed, like the god Nuggan, making onions into a sin because he doesn't like them.
It's just the nature of what the reality of God is and reality of human freedom of will. There is good and there is evil, right and wrong. We don't invent it we understand it.
(October 20, 2013 at 5:56 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Theists usually say something along these lines. It just means they feel guilty that being sinners they're loved by god so they need to be good because god wants them to be good.
That's the idea, though it even works for people who don't believe in God.
Quote:So good is whatever god wants. If god loves you but wants you to do bad stuff, you do it because he loves you.
If something is "bad" then it is always against God wishes as this is how "bad" or sin is defined. This is Gods Moral Law and it applies to everyone equally.
Quote:I think they're good because they want to convert others.
Atheists want to convince others that God some kind of harmful myth rather than truth that is good to know.
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.