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A theist dilemma
October 13, 2015 at 8:25 am
I am an atheist, and I say God exists. I remain an atheist before, during and after making that statement. I do not believe in God, I say God exists.
I cannot believe in God and claim to be an atheist, I cannot be an atheist and claim to believe in God.
When I, as an atheist, state that God exists, my statement is dishonest, and God does not approve of dishonesty.
When I, as an atheist, tell you that God exists, am I committing a sinful action? If so, why? If not, why not?
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RE: A theist dilemma
October 13, 2015 at 9:10 am
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2015 at 9:11 am by Chad32.)
You're just lying when you say you're an atheist who doesn't believe in a god. You're a theist, though perhaps a maltheist if you dn't worship the god because you believe he's unworthy. Since lying is a sin, then yes. You've sinned. Not that you'd care, I suppose, because you don't worship it. Which of course is in itsself a sin.
If a god came down and proved to me s/he exists, I'd have to stop being an atheist. Though whether or not I willingly worship this god is up in the air.
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RE: A theist dilemma
October 13, 2015 at 9:13 am
Well, the idea of "sin" is very specific to certain kinds of glass-jaw gods though. I imagine any actual gods wouldn't deem anything a sin, let alone a bit of lying.
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RE: A theist dilemma
October 13, 2015 at 9:13 am
(October 13, 2015 at 8:25 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: When I, as an atheist, state that God exists, my statement is dishonest, and God does not approve of dishonesty.
When I, as an atheist, tell you that God exists, am I committing a sinful action? If so, why? If not, why not?
Define/describe your god please.
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RE: A theist dilemma
October 13, 2015 at 9:16 am
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2015 at 9:18 am by ApeNotKillApe.)
(October 13, 2015 at 9:13 am)mh.brewer Wrote: (October 13, 2015 at 8:25 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: When I, as an atheist, state that God exists, my statement is dishonest, and God does not approve of dishonesty.
When I, as an atheist, tell you that God exists, am I committing a sinful action? If so, why? If not, why not?
Define/describe your god please.
I thought I had posted this in the "Christianity" subforum.
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RE: A theist dilemma
October 13, 2015 at 9:20 am
(October 13, 2015 at 9:16 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: (October 13, 2015 at 9:13 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Define/describe your god please.
I thought I had posted this in the "Christianity" subforum. Sorry, hadn't read it. Link me to it please.
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RE: A theist dilemma
October 13, 2015 at 9:22 am
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2015 at 9:22 am by ApeNotKillApe.)
(October 13, 2015 at 9:20 am)mh.brewer Wrote: (October 13, 2015 at 9:16 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: I thought I had posted this in the "Christianity" subforum. Sorry, hadn't read it. Link me to it please.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-37358.html
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RE: A theist dilemma
October 13, 2015 at 9:22 am
Uh......
What.
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RE: A theist dilemma
October 13, 2015 at 9:35 am
The link directs me back to this thread. Not worth my time.
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RE: A theist dilemma
October 13, 2015 at 9:49 am
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2015 at 9:51 am by ApeNotKillApe.)
(October 13, 2015 at 9:35 am)mh.brewer Wrote: The link directs me back to this thread. Not worth my time.
I am posing the question in a sub-forum titled "Christianity." I thought that would define clearly enough the God I'm referring to.
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