(October 21, 2013 at 2:46 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Yes, that process is called self correction, but that doesn't mean that every moral tenet is completely based upon the whims of the majority.then please give an example that is not.
Quote:We do have certain absolutes, based upon our position as physical beings in a physical universe.Again please give examples..
Quote:The process isn't perfect- hence the need for correction- but doomsaying over moral relativism misses the point entirely, and also misdefines what actual moral relativism is.which is?
Quote:The same basic things that were moral before; the actual concepts don't shift, the actions do. A change in society can either repair an issue that was immoral before, or turn a moral situation immoral, but the concepts themselves aren't fluid and based entirely on majority approval, because the universe we live in doesn't change according to that either.Great philosphy, the only problem it does not reflect the examples of History that I provided.
I gave 3 examples of entire soceities shifting their morality/santity of human life, from holding to everyone having a right to live, to a majority section of the soceity turning on a minority and trying to wipe them out. Each time the majority dehumanized those being slaughtered and little to no mercy was shown.
This happened or when on unchecked in North america and was spun in a positive light, (children even made games of it) where in other parts of the world this practice was stopped and the people who did these very same things were villified. The difference? popular opinion, and the domination of our culture over theirs. Thus giving us the right to be hipocritical as we want to be.
From then to now there has been a core shift in pop morality to say all life is now sacred, unless youre an unwanted child. Then all one need do is change your classification from child to fetus, and then this soceity will happily look the otherway while thousands are killed daily.
Quote:The third option: nobody has it entirely right, but we're learning, and hopefully making the right decisions.But 'we' aren't. We are making the right desisions for us, all the while crushing out everyone elses culture, or in some cases villifying it, so when war does come 'we' can feel 'right' about forcing a nation of weirdos like North Korea to adopt our brand of life.
Quote:And any uses those commandments had in the physical world weren't intended at all?How did you come to this conclusion?
Quote:But you don't act entirely biblically either, do you? You're restrained by common morality more than the biblical stuff.
How do you mean?