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Why can't non-christians talk with god?
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RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god?
(October 24, 2013 at 1:09 am)Godschild Wrote: I would say we should have a sit down and discuss what you did to earnestly seek God

I'll bet for as many people that claim to have found god, there are almost as many methods they used.

Not to mention all the people of other religions that also claim to have found their god. With no method to discern the difference between your claims and theirs.

Quote:in my experience with people those who actually sought God found Him, those who played at finding God did not. I mean none of this to reflect on you, just giving you what I've experienced with other people.

But here's the rub. No matter how sincere and earnest a person was in seeking God, if they don't find him (or he doesn't find them), you have a built in way discount their efforts.

"Obviously, if you didn't find God, you had to be just playing at finding him. Because if you were earnest and sincere, you would have found him. How do I know? Because you didn't find him."

Circular reasoning at its best.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Brakeman - October 22, 2013 at 1:07 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by John V - October 22, 2013 at 1:27 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Simon Moon - October 22, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Simon Moon - October 22, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by hobie - October 23, 2013 at 4:33 am
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by max-greece - October 23, 2013 at 5:02 am
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by hobie - October 24, 2013 at 7:28 am
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Esquilax - October 24, 2013 at 7:36 am
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by LastPoet - October 24, 2013 at 7:37 am
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Tonus - October 24, 2013 at 8:38 am
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Godschild - October 23, 2013 at 1:12 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Godschild - October 24, 2013 at 1:09 am
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Esquilax - October 24, 2013 at 1:28 am
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Godschild - October 24, 2013 at 11:22 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Simon Moon - October 24, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by DLJ - October 23, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by ThomM - October 23, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Drich - October 22, 2013 at 3:49 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Brakeman - October 22, 2013 at 6:06 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Brakeman - October 22, 2013 at 8:23 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Godschild - October 22, 2013 at 11:24 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Godschild - October 23, 2013 at 12:02 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Cinjin - October 22, 2013 at 11:04 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by max-greece - October 22, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Drich - October 22, 2013 at 10:25 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Tonus - October 23, 2013 at 11:18 am
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Drich - October 24, 2013 at 1:10 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Ryantology - October 23, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Brakeman - October 23, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Drich - October 24, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Brakeman - October 24, 2013 at 7:28 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Ryantology - October 22, 2013 at 7:04 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Minimalist - October 22, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Minimalist - October 23, 2013 at 12:27 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Bob Kelso - October 23, 2013 at 2:02 am
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Godschild - October 23, 2013 at 12:08 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Godschild - October 23, 2013 at 12:31 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Brakeman - October 23, 2013 at 6:55 am
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Godschild - October 23, 2013 at 12:23 pm
Re: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Hobbitgirl - October 23, 2013 at 10:25 am
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by max-greece - October 23, 2013 at 12:15 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Phea1Mike - October 23, 2013 at 12:56 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Zen Badger - October 23, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Minimalist - October 23, 2013 at 8:41 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Polaris - October 24, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Brakeman - October 24, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Polaris - October 24, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Brakeman - October 24, 2013 at 10:44 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Owlix - October 24, 2013 at 10:50 pm
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by Drich - October 25, 2013 at 12:18 am
RE: Why can't non-christians talk with god? - by max-greece - October 25, 2013 at 1:08 am

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