(October 28, 2013 at 1:26 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote:(October 28, 2013 at 1:17 pm)Godschild Wrote: So you see I've given up nothing and actually gained knowledge of God's existence.
Then what does God look like? If you claim to know he exists, you've surely seen him, right?
Yes, I see Him all the time.
GC Wrote:God will show those who deny Him here where they made their error, everything and I mean everything will be revealed at the judgement.
DT Wrote:Oh you mean the part where I found it impossible to believe in God based upon no evidence and then God reveals why he hid any & all evidence of his existence as well as refusing to show me a sign that he exists?
God will reveal to you all the evidence you ignored. Christ told Thomas that He believes because of sight. He told Thomas blessed are those who will believe without seeing.
GC Wrote:God says everyone will bend his/her knees and bow their before Him, and say, yes you truly are the King, this also occurs at the judgement.
DT Wrote:If this scenario were to happen, I wouldn't kneel before him or call him a king. If he's going to send me to hell for not believing in him after he hid his existence, then why should I kneel? Especially since he's going to throw me in hell anyway? Why can't I just flip him the bird? It would be like those movies where the bad guy is talking to the hero who's tied up, and all the hero can do is spit in the bad guy's face even though he knows the bad guy is likely going to kill him. What more can the bad guy do? God can't torture me for even longer than eternity.
What you think and what will really take place are two very different things. There's only one reason God would send you to hell, because you chose to be separated from Him. The bad guy and the hero, and you accuse me of living in a fantasy world. God does not torture, though He could make your punishment worse.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
