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Current time: February 22, 2025, 5:19 am

Poll: Which one is lying?
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god
28.57%
6 28.57%
satan
14.29%
3 14.29%
both
14.29%
3 14.29%
neither
42.86%
9 42.86%
Total 21 vote(s) 100%
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Is The Devil A Liar?
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RE: Is The Devil A Liar?
I voted for God because I am ignoring the issue that neither exist for the sake of the argument.

I have argued before on this forum that maltheism is a far more likely explanation of things than the good god approach.

If God is evil then, by definition the devil is good.

The strange thing is the Christian tale of the devil and the fallen angels. About a third of the angels chose to leave with Satan. Now if God is the all perfect one why would a full third of his privileged angels opt to go with Satan? One imagines that Satan and the fallen angels can read - and they know, therefore, from Revelations if not from other sources, that they will ultimately lose out. Rather than suing for peace, however, they are sticking it out. This leaves us with one of the following conclusions:

1. They don't agree with the prophesy and think they will win.
2. They know that they are going to lose but still think that this option is better than being with God.

Now we have to assume, according to Christian tradition, that they are so consumed with evil that they reject God - even knowing they will lose out in the end. The thing is - God made them, why did he make a third of them evil? Do angels have free choice like we do? What does it say about God if a third of those with free choice who know for a certainty that God exists STILL rejected him.

The argument for a good God gets weaker by the second.
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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Messages In This Thread
Is The Devil A Liar? - by freedomfromforum - October 28, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Minimalist - October 28, 2013 at 6:19 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by freedomfromforum - October 28, 2013 at 6:19 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Owlix - October 28, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Minimalist - October 28, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - October 28, 2013 at 6:38 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by freedomfromforum - October 28, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Bad Wolf - October 28, 2013 at 8:13 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Owlix - October 28, 2013 at 8:15 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Marvin - October 28, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by freedomfromforum - October 28, 2013 at 8:31 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Marvin - October 28, 2013 at 8:45 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Zazzy - October 28, 2013 at 9:35 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Captain Colostomy - October 28, 2013 at 11:37 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Dionysius - October 29, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by LastPoet - October 29, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Dionysius - October 29, 2013 at 11:53 am
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Doubting Thomas - October 29, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by max-greece - October 29, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Dolphins are the best - November 10, 2013 at 12:56 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Bob Kelso - November 10, 2013 at 2:00 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by max-greece - November 10, 2013 at 2:35 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Bob Kelso - November 11, 2013 at 1:16 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Ayen - November 10, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by max-greece - November 11, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 12:35 am
RE: Is The Devil A Liar? - by Bob Kelso - November 11, 2013 at 10:15 pm

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