Computer Scientists "prove" God exists

[MindForgedManacle]

He does, I've already explained that.

Which means that you're contradicting yourself, as I said. Faith in God's existence doesn't give you knowledge of God's existence: only God can do that if he exists. I agree.

God has revealed Himself to all in some way, I'm not privy to how He does this, nor do I need to be. I've never said He hasn't as you are suggesting everyone will have God revealed to them at some point in their lives. God has not fail, those who reject Him are exercising their choice within their free will, God will force no one to choose Him.

So in other words, you say God has revealed himself to EVERYONE in some way that you yourself admit you don't know how, yet you still assert it as true, knowingly without evidence? THAT is what dishonesty is. And to say that God has revealed himself to everyone in some way, and yet there are people who don't realize that (ex: me) is just a demonstration of what I said before: If God exists he's either impotent, incompetent or both.

I do not have to, God does that for everyone, it's not His responsibility to force one into a decision.

So something you cannot evidence the existence of and do not know the operations of does things that you don't know of, yet you know it exists and does certain things?

Some deity you've got there.

You haven't sought Him out have you? Of coarse you would say He exist when you have absolute proof, only an idiot wouldn't. That's why I said at the judgement everyone will bend on knee and bow their head and call God the LORD of all.

As a former fundamentalist, "born-again" Christian, to say I haven't 'sought out God' is quite hilarious and blatantly false. And now that you admit that I would in fact accept that God exists if there were powerful evidence for it, I hereby request that you retract your claim that I'm simply denying he exists because it would ruin my life.

Further, your second point that God will demonstrate his existence and supremacy on Judgement Day is a demonstration that God could reveal himself everyone such that they would accept he exists, yet chooses not to. Hence, he allows them to go to Hell by not doing so.

You haven't sought out God for a reason, could it be that if you were to find Him you would have to give up the life you're so happy with for one you seem to deny as worth to live.

There is nothing in life so precious to me that evidence that I would choose it and accept infinite torture over.

Actually, I think the threat itself would be one of the only things that would make me hesitate. "Accept me as lord and savior or, in my infinite benevolence and justice, I will torture you for eternity!"

Again, some god you've (supposedly) got.

Yes, that's what I said and have presented nothing to indicate differently.

Good, I'm clarifying to demonstrate the incoherence of your position.

No, I believe everyone can make decisions due to the facts at hand, spiritually or physically. I've changed greatly over my life and foresee changing in the future.

Er, you just agreed with me. To say that people can choose based on the "facts at hand" just means they analyze a given set of facts (reason) based on the way they've built up said ability to reason (background information).

I try and deal with life as honestly as possible.

GC

Until you've been shown not to have been entirely honest, or at least a history of misunderstanding posts.