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Computer Scientists "prove" God exists
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RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists
Oh goody! I see we're talking about the nature of faith again. Godschild, I'll introduce to you my lawn-growing gnomes again, alongside what secular faith looks like:

Secular faith (along with belief and knowledge):

(1) I have the knowledge that not one bus in my city has crashed.
(2) From (1), I have formed the belief that buses in my city are safe.
© Given (1) & (2), I am justified in putting faith on my bus driver next time I get on a bus - that he won't crash.

Religious faith, illustrated by lawn-growing gnomes:

(1) I have faith that lawn-growing gnomes exist (an unjustified assumption already).
(2) From (2), I have formed the belief that these gnomes interact with my garden.
© Given (1) & (2), I have gained the knowledge that lawn-growing gnomes make my grass grow.


It's evident that starting with faith and ending with knowledge can lead the individual to think *anything* is true, because they've already compromised themselves by putting faith/trusting something for *no apparent reason*. Once that first unjustified step is accomplished, falsehoods can be tacked on to that faith like there's no tomorrow. That's why a secular application of faith is more rational, because all steps are justified - more so than religious faith anyways.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Silver - October 27, 2013 at 8:39 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Chas - October 27, 2013 at 8:45 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Brian37 - October 29, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Dragonetti - October 27, 2013 at 9:20 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Esquilax - October 27, 2013 at 10:12 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Tkcjpii - October 27, 2013 at 7:53 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - October 28, 2013 at 1:26 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Esquilax - October 28, 2013 at 1:28 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Cinjin - October 28, 2013 at 2:02 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - October 28, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Esquilax - October 28, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - October 29, 2013 at 3:47 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Brian37 - October 29, 2013 at 5:21 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Esquilax - October 30, 2013 at 7:32 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - October 30, 2013 at 5:15 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Esquilax - October 30, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - October 30, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - October 31, 2013 at 1:13 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Silver - October 30, 2013 at 5:37 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Owlix - October 27, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Cinjin - October 27, 2013 at 8:48 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by DLJ - October 28, 2013 at 7:01 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by max-greece - October 28, 2013 at 7:06 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - October 28, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Silver - October 28, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - October 28, 2013 at 10:48 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Silver - October 28, 2013 at 10:49 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - October 29, 2013 at 12:41 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - October 29, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Zen Badger - October 29, 2013 at 9:29 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Walking Void - October 28, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by orogenicman - October 28, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by orogenicman - October 29, 2013 at 2:56 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by orogenicman - October 29, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by orogenicman - October 29, 2013 at 9:35 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by LastPoet - October 30, 2013 at 6:35 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by LastPoet - October 29, 2013 at 7:30 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by orogenicman - October 29, 2013 at 8:13 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Dragonetti - October 29, 2013 at 7:37 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - October 29, 2013 at 2:05 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Brian37 - October 29, 2013 at 3:09 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Zen Badger - October 30, 2013 at 5:54 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by orogenicman - October 30, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by LastPoet - October 30, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by LostLocke - October 30, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by orogenicman - October 30, 2013 at 8:43 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - November 4, 2013 at 11:42 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by orogenicman - November 5, 2013 at 12:46 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - November 5, 2013 at 1:45 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by orogenicman - November 5, 2013 at 3:01 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - November 5, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by orogenicman - November 5, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Anomalocaris - November 5, 2013 at 4:19 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - November 5, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by orogenicman - November 5, 2013 at 6:37 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Anomalocaris - November 5, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by FallentoReason - October 30, 2013 at 9:12 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Zen Badger - October 31, 2013 at 7:36 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - November 1, 2013 at 3:24 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Zen Badger - November 3, 2013 at 2:57 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Sejanus - November 1, 2013 at 4:20 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by orogenicman - November 3, 2013 at 10:13 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Owlix - November 5, 2013 at 8:52 pm
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Godschild - November 6, 2013 at 12:57 am
RE: Computer Scientists "prove" God exists - by Anomalocaris - November 6, 2013 at 1:13 am

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