RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
November 7, 2013 at 7:49 pm
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2013 at 7:51 pm by Godscreated.)
(November 7, 2013 at 4:39 am)ToriJ Wrote:(November 6, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Godschild Wrote: Scripture tells us that God doesn't tempt, so how is it you can blame God for your sin, did He force you to make wrong decisions. If you happen to be talking about Adam and Eve, then you must believe that God shouldn't have given us choice.
If your child disobeyed you would you throw him into a fire and watch him burn? Would you then proceed to do the same to his offspring?
btw, God forced the pharaoh to sin against him. He hardened his heart so that he wouldn't let his people go and then proceeded to kill every first born son in Egypt.
If I threw him in a fire how would he have offspring. The punishment I would set for my son would be given to him if he disobeyed, of coarse I would not throw him in a fire. Your trying to compare a finite situation to an infinite one.
(November 5, 2013 at 2:21 pm)Godschild Wrote: That's all you got, surely you can do better than that, is the temple the same as the church. The temple is a building after all.
ToriJ Wrote:tem·ple1
ˈtempəl/
noun
noun: temple; plural noun: temples
1.
a building devoted to the worship, or regarded as the dwelling place, of a god or gods or other objects of religious reverence.
synonyms: house of God, house of worship, shrine, sanctuary; More
church, cathedral, mosque, synagogue, shul;
archaicfane
"at the altar of the temple"
either of two successive religious buildings of the Jews in Jerusalem. The first (957–586 BC) was built by Solomon and destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar; it contained the Ark of the Covenant. The second (515 BC–AD 70) was enlarged by Herod the Great from 20 BC and destroyed by the Romans during a Jewish revolt; all that remains is the Western Wall.
noun: Temple; noun: the Temple
a group of buildings in Fleet Street in London that stand on land formerly occupied by the headquarters of the Knights Templar. Located there are the Inner and Outer Temple, two of the Inns of Court.
noun: the Temple
a synagogue.
a place of Christian public worship, esp. a Protestant church in France.
synonyms: house of God, house of worship, shrine, sanctuary;
church, cathedral, mosque, synagogue, shul;
archaicfane
"at the altar of the temple"
Source
You were saying?
I'm still saying you do not know the difference between the two.
(November 6, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Godschild Wrote: I do not know of any Christians that condone slavery, yet there are tens of thousands of atheist who believe in slave trafficking young girls in the sex slave trade.
ToriJ Wrote:Source?
You're surely not that naive, do you ever watch the news, check the net it's all over the place.
(November 6, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Godschild Wrote: It's your responsibility to learn, if you believed the church was teaching you wrong you should have gone to scripture to find the truth.
ToriJ Wrote:I did. The scripture supported their teachings. It seems to be you who are going against God's word.
How am I going against God's word? I do not understand what you are referring to.
(November 6, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Godschild Wrote: You are the one who chooses hell, you could choose Christ you know.
ToriJ Wrote:You have the following choices, which do you choose?
A.) Kill yourself
B.) Cut off your hand
C.) Ask why your only options are A and B
Why wasn't I given a positive choice, that's not better than the rapist asking the woman in what manner do you want to be raped, no positive choice. You know God gave me the same choices He has given you, I chose the positive one and am happy with it.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.