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Converting from islam any help?
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RE: Converting from islam any help?
(October 11, 2013 at 6:48 am)Ilovemyself Wrote: Hi there!
I'm sick and tired of Islam. It's so evil & mean towards non believers also unfair to women. My parents are punjabi pakistani's by their parents, they pray 5 times a day, fast. But they ask me to pray and I say that I'm still learning. I just want to get out of this trash whole religion, Christianity isn't any different but at least Jesus Christ didn't have sex with an 6 year old when he was 55 like mohammed did. I'm still young so i can't move out. I just want some help & advice, thanks.

What others have said about being safe, I concur.

However, it is not a requirement of Islam that you believe Asha was six when Mohammed had sex with her. That's a Sunni thing. Sunnis are in the majority, but they empahsize Asha's youth to make it more impressive that Mohammed's teachings were passed through her. In other words, it's political, to undermine the Shia position on how Mohammed's teachings were transmitted. Shia scholars estimate Asha's age as more likely being in her late teens when her marriage was consummated. No one can honestly say that they really know what was actually the case on this matter.

I'm not encouraging you to stay in Islam, but if you'd stay a Muslim if only it was more fair to women, was kinder to nonbelievers, and did a better job of advocating peace; you might want to take a look at Islamic Modernism in the Ottoman Empire. A century ago, Muslim intellectuals wanted the benefits of democracy and equality for the Islamic world. The movement failed because the empire collapsed and its fragments were conquered by Europeans, so the question went from 'how can we be like the West?' to 'how can we resist the West?'. Islam is not inherently illiberal, especially if you drop the hadiths as authoritative. There are modern liberal movements within Islam today. They probably have Facebook pages.

If you're attracted to freethinking/humanism, that's great. If it's more of a matter of not liking Islamic fundamentalism, you don't have to throw out Islam completely to not be a fundamentalist.
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Converting from islam any help? - by Ilovemyself - October 11, 2013 at 6:48 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Darwinian - October 11, 2013 at 6:53 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Ilovemyself - October 11, 2013 at 7:04 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Captain Colostomy - October 11, 2013 at 6:54 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Kayenneh - October 11, 2013 at 7:56 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by pineapplebunnybounce - October 11, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Ilovemyself - October 12, 2013 at 10:46 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Psykhronic - October 11, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Minimalist - October 11, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Sword of Christ - October 11, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Fidel_Castronaut - October 11, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Sword of Christ - October 11, 2013 at 1:43 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by LastPoet - October 11, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Sword of Christ - October 11, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Bucky Ball - October 11, 2013 at 8:06 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Bad Writer - October 11, 2013 at 8:42 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Minimalist - October 11, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Airyaman - October 11, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Minimalist - October 11, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by pineapplebunnybounce - October 11, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Minimalist - October 11, 2013 at 2:29 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Tonus - October 11, 2013 at 3:03 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by KichigaiNeko - October 12, 2013 at 8:54 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Cato - October 12, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Ilovemyself - October 13, 2013 at 3:31 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Fruity - October 13, 2013 at 12:13 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by MysticKnight - October 16, 2013 at 6:42 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Faith No More - October 16, 2013 at 12:22 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by MysticKnight - October 16, 2013 at 3:29 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Faith No More - October 16, 2013 at 7:06 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by MysticKnight - October 17, 2013 at 6:48 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Brakeman - October 16, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by MysticKnight - October 16, 2013 at 7:20 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by paulpablo - October 16, 2013 at 8:08 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Bucky Ball - October 16, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by ThomM - October 16, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Aractus - October 17, 2013 at 8:06 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by sofia86 - October 21, 2013 at 12:31 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by pineapplebunnybounce - October 21, 2013 at 12:36 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Aractus - October 22, 2013 at 3:04 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by sofia86 - October 21, 2013 at 12:45 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Cinjin - October 21, 2013 at 1:05 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by sofia86 - October 21, 2013 at 3:59 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by pineapplebunnybounce - October 21, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by sofia86 - October 21, 2013 at 10:06 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by sofia86 - October 24, 2013 at 4:34 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by bladevalant546 - October 22, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Sword of Christ - October 23, 2013 at 8:22 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Aractus - October 23, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Mstricky - November 8, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Mister Agenda - November 8, 2013 at 1:16 pm
RE: Converting from islam any help? - by Cyberman - November 8, 2013 at 2:43 pm

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