(November 9, 2013 at 11:28 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:(November 9, 2013 at 10:29 am)Texas Sailor Wrote: Whoops! Missed the mark here. The entire world can think X is better than Y, that doesn't change my opinion that Y is still better.
Try again...
Nope. It's right on target - a bullseye.
Maybe you are happy to ignore the REASON why XXX number of people have determined that X is better than Y.
Sure, you can be the minority of 1 person in the entire world who disagrees. But please don't make the fallacious assumption that the REASON why so many more people THINK something is an irrelevant consideration.
Should I take flavour advice from someone who thinks cow dung tastes OK?
No. I'm gonna use logic and reason and factor in all the information I have - including the apparent defect in your taste buds since (someone like) you might be the only person in 'the entire world' who prefers scat to vanilla ice cream. No thanks. I'm going with the majority and leave the experimental flavours to you.
People think the argumentum ad populam is always a logical fallacy.
It's not.
There is a difference between "persuasive" and "conclusive"
(November 9, 2013 at 11:09 pm)Esquilax Wrote: ...By cooperating, we've been able to remove all those needs that required conflict and death dealing in the past. That's just demonstrably true.
Who feels foolish now, Lion?
Did you just make the absurd utopian claim that we have removed ALL those "needs that cause conflict"?
ALL of them gone now?
I can see why you aren't sure which one of us looks foolish.
XXX people think that God doesn't exist (68.5% of the world)
¨I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.¨