RE: All the problems with Christianity
November 12, 2013 at 5:52 pm
(This post was last modified: November 12, 2013 at 6:17 pm by ronedee.)
(November 12, 2013 at 2:00 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: Is the gift being vulnerable to believing absurd things on the basis of insufficient evidence?
"Life" isn't a gift?
Do you think of your 4 year old as a gift? Or just someone you're raising?
(November 12, 2013 at 2:00 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: I think you need to finish that thought. Lines like this are followed with a disclaimer (Need him, obey him, trust him, love him...or else..)
This is what makes God seem like a petty egotistic maniac...
I am the father of a 4 year old boy. Is a 4 year old unempowered? I want him to grow into a kind intelligent man. I would of course like him to love me, and respect me, but I also realize that it's not a given. I need to work to improve as a man myself so that I can be a role model deserving of his respect, love, and gratitude.
I love him, so I give him guidance in the best way I can.
Ultimately, it will be his decision to do what I say, or follow a different path.
In the end, I'm not standing preparing to press a button that will subject him to eternal torture if he doesn't follow the exact path that want for him.
Why?
Did God reveal His raunchy nature to you personally?
What first hand knowledge (from God) and evidence do you have to support your claims? You are talking for Him correct?
Or is it man's version of God you are talking about?
(November 12, 2013 at 5:32 pm)Rationalman Wrote: I think I would close the door. We have of yet been unable to clone a T-rex so they don't exist, much like your god. Except the t-rex has the merit of existing once upon a time so I would in fact think it more likely that my father would bring a t-rex home then god coming to visit.
Well... if God did in some fasion exist (in your critical minds-eye of what He should be) would He bother with someone like you? Honestly?
Or, would He just sit back and laugh?
I mean really now.... If God knows all, is all. Why would He reveal Himself to someone who would close a door in His face?
Why not instead, reveal Himself to those who are faithful and loving of the "gift of life" that He gave us?
Some things are self-evident. Its whether we acknowledge them as evidence or not.
Do you need to actually see something to know it exists? Or, can you just know it? Is that possible?
My daughter bought her first car... a 10 year old vw. She did it all on her own! I didn't offer to help her buy it, other than to look at it or loan her some money. It didn't have any hubcaps on the 2 front wheels. So, after a few months, I got them for her and put them on one morning w/o telling her...
When I came home she ran up and hugged me! She said "thanks for the hubcaps dad, i love you!" I said, "what hubcaps?" With a surprised look on my face! She said..."I know it was you, thanks!"
That's Faith. And that's how I feel about my Heavenly Father! I don't need to "see Him" put good things in my life! I know it's all from Him.
Quis ut Deus?