(November 12, 2013 at 5:52 pm)ronedee Wrote: Well... if God did in some fasion exist (in your critical minds-eye of what He should be) would He bother with someone like you? Honestly?I don't know, makes me wonder why an all powerful, all knowing, universe creator would bother with a few billion large brained apes scampering around on a blue and green speck.
(November 12, 2013 at 5:52 pm)ronedee Wrote: Do you need to actually see something to know it exists? Or, can you just know it? Is that possible?
No, you don't need to see something to know it exists, you need evidence
(November 12, 2013 at 5:52 pm)ronedee Wrote: My daughter bought her first car... a 10 year old vw. She did it all on her own! I didn't offer to help her buy it, other than to look at it or loan her some money. It didn't have any hubcaps on the 2 front wheels. So, after a few months, I got them for her and put them on one morning w/o telling her...
When I came home she ran up and hugged me! She said "thanks for the hubcaps dad, i love you!" I said, "what hubcaps?" With a surprised look on my face! She said..."I know it was you, thanks!"
That's Faith. And that's how I feel about my Heavenly Father! I don't need to "see Him" put good things in my life! I know it's all from Him.
No, that is not faith. That is an example of reasonable belief. She knew that you knew she had bought a car. She knew that you knew that it didn't have hubcaps. She knew that she didn't buy and put the hubcaps on her car. She knew that it is extraordinarily unlikely that someone put them there by mistake. And considering you already loaned her money to buy the car, it is not unreasonable to assume that you would spend further money on it because you love your daughter.
And unless you are an incredibly good lier, your 'surprised face' combined with your confused 'what hubcaps?' exclamation implied that you were in fact lying and knew exactly what she was talking about.
Faith is gullibility. Faith is the excuse people give for believing in something despite lack of evidence or evidence to the contrary.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
