There's something to be said for organized religion. It's ability to harness its membership for volunteer work and free labor is unmatched, most likely because you guys meet in groups regularly. There are atheist soup kitchens. They're just called soup kitchens though. Churches are very good at networking in the community because they've been around since before this country was founded, and if you think about it hell seems to be a good incentive for attendance and tithes. Its smarter to use the system already established, if you're looking to do the most good. Which is why churches are a go to place for those who wish to connect with others in their community.
No, I don't care what nonprofit organization you're running. If you deny your recipients benefits for any reason: you're doing it for fully selfish reasons. Even if a Nazi group wanted to give my org money I'd take it and shut my mouth. No, they wouldnt be allowed to show symbols of their beliefs of any form when volunteering, but you brought that issue ip not me. Im pretty sure the article didnt say 'atheists who want to wear I hate god tshirts are banned from christian soup kitchen.'No one has a patent on charity. For that matter, why are there homeless people sleeping on the streets at night when there are perfectly warm comfy <empty> church buildings all over?
Asking why atheists wont gather together to form their own charity, based on nonbelief in a deity, is ridiculous, really it is. Far more important things to do than waste money on a sparkly white buildings meant specifically for people to worship an invisible force. There's other communal meetings to take part in. However since you all seem to have rent on buildings paid, and make enough money to do that and do community outreach: why not utilize your already established network? I see the need: then try to help it, through any means possible. As a matter of fact every charity I've been involved with excluding a memorial charity this year, has been enacted through a church. Some of the Christians I work with know I'm an atheist (because we're family friends) and they don't give a flying anything what i believe, like you do. Why do you care what someone's religious beliefs are if all they want to do is help, Lion?.
I for one respect the organizations I am volunteering or giving through. That's what real charity is. Putting aside your judgemental nature and just: helping
. Working together is also just something adults are able to do. Seems pretty childish to me, your entire post. I certainly don't wear "I hate god" shirts and try to proselytize to those I'm there to help.
I for one was serious about working together.
Thanks for demonstrating the root cause of this thread.
No, I don't care what nonprofit organization you're running. If you deny your recipients benefits for any reason: you're doing it for fully selfish reasons. Even if a Nazi group wanted to give my org money I'd take it and shut my mouth. No, they wouldnt be allowed to show symbols of their beliefs of any form when volunteering, but you brought that issue ip not me. Im pretty sure the article didnt say 'atheists who want to wear I hate god tshirts are banned from christian soup kitchen.'No one has a patent on charity. For that matter, why are there homeless people sleeping on the streets at night when there are perfectly warm comfy <empty> church buildings all over?
Asking why atheists wont gather together to form their own charity, based on nonbelief in a deity, is ridiculous, really it is. Far more important things to do than waste money on a sparkly white buildings meant specifically for people to worship an invisible force. There's other communal meetings to take part in. However since you all seem to have rent on buildings paid, and make enough money to do that and do community outreach: why not utilize your already established network? I see the need: then try to help it, through any means possible. As a matter of fact every charity I've been involved with excluding a memorial charity this year, has been enacted through a church. Some of the Christians I work with know I'm an atheist (because we're family friends) and they don't give a flying anything what i believe, like you do. Why do you care what someone's religious beliefs are if all they want to do is help, Lion?.
I for one respect the organizations I am volunteering or giving through. That's what real charity is. Putting aside your judgemental nature and just: helping
. Working together is also just something adults are able to do. Seems pretty childish to me, your entire post. I certainly don't wear "I hate god" shirts and try to proselytize to those I'm there to help.
I for one was serious about working together.
Thanks for demonstrating the root cause of this thread.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
