(November 17, 2013 at 10:10 am)Zazzy Wrote:Religion is the worst thing to happen to politics (especially in america) in... Well ever actually!(November 17, 2013 at 5:05 am)Avodaiah Wrote: This seems to be begging the question a little once we take a look at what exactly is so absurd. I assume you're mainly referring to the miracles that God/Jesus did in the Bible.I'm not trying to prove anything to you, and I don't need to. Theists love to assume that atheists are making concrete claims that a god does not exist. I have not done that, so please make this strawman go away.
But the fact that they can't happen in the world, at least without God, is exactly the point: They imply that God must have had a hand in them. To say that their absurdness proves that the Bible is unreliable implies that the God of the Bible is not real, which is what you're trying to prove.
What I said was that the stories are ridiculous and unconvincing, and that they're part of a bewildering array of equally ridiculous stories and claims from many different flavors of religion. They can't all be true since they make competing claims, and even you Christians can't agree on the meanings of the stories in your holy book. I'm going to keep living my life without worrying about it, until religionists intrude into the political sphere and start fucking with me, as they are wont to do in Texas.
Politics is also the worst thing to happen to religion, for somewhat different reasons.
Politicians think they can "use" religion for political capital. Of course they can! But what they don't realise is the price they will have to pay for that. I think the new breed of politician, people like Palin and Ted Cruz, are a far greater threat to their own party than to the opposition!
American politics are fucking terrifying right now!
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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
Sith code