Question for Deists and Agnostics

[themonkeyman]

I don't hear God calling me so far I have heard so much evidence to prove your Christian God wrong all I am asking is for someone to bolster that again.

and yet you still fear Hell... Seems to me if there is a Hell, there is a God. Meaning if you still fear Hell deep down you still feel there is a God.

Your God is an evil bastard who has no problem smashing kids heads on rocks.

Moo Ha Ha ha.. I'd be more concerned with my going to hell, than someone's 3000 year old wishes to smash their captures kids heads against rocks.

Actually dude, I don't fear hell as that came in with the NT. The Old Testament never said Hell in the same meaning or effect.

Jesus himself was just a fanatic like Matius at the time both performing miracles and doing bull shit magic tricks.

I raise the question with you - How do you know the Bible is true? Take the Gnostic works for example you as a Christian will reject them as made up so how come we cannot hold your NT works in the same stead.

Secondly you may say that if the Bible was false it would not have lasted this long well my argument to this is the fact that Gnostic works are also present so does this not imply that these should also be scriptural?

When I thought about the Big Bang theory today I immediately jumped that it was the God Yahweh, But when from time to time I get the 'What If' thought in my head I realize that

1) Yahweh has 3 different religions (Judaism / Christian / Islam)
2) Each religion opposes the other two.
3) Each religion teaches an alternative way to follow God and warns against the other two.

So to take the premise that I wanted to believe in God my big question is which view point do I take? Deep down I would take Judaism if I had a choice because Christianity and Islam are divides in the core belief.

I am slowly coming round to how absurd Yahweh actually is again. See you are concerned with going to Hell yourself. Do you think that God doesn't know that you are only using him to 'Be Safe' e.g. Pascals Wager.

To be honest you have helped me hear @Drich,

I would rather be roasting in Hell forever knowing that others are probably there with me. Than to be in heaven knowing my loved ones aren't there and having to worship the guy who is torturing them.

Ooh and also.

You make it seam that God is a tyrant here bound on blood - Hell is literally the Wrath of God. But considering your God is Just would his wrath not be Justified? Meaning that I should just leave it to him for my consequences knowing that he will punish me fairly for eternity proportional to the crime.

God said an Eye for an Eye he did not say an Eye for 2 Legs so nothing is making me think that he is going to be unfair about a Fatherly punishment. Perhaps however that's what you are wanting!

Considering his Hypothetical Son came to earth to teach about turning the other Cheek can we not presuppose that God wont turn the other cheek too. Otherwise he would be very wrong in teaching humans to do something he cannot?!

And lastly

Apocalypse of Peter :: - Yes the book that was in the Original Bible at Nicea.

"My Father will give unto them all the life, the glory, and the kingdom that passeth not away, ... It is because of them that have believed in me that I am come. It is also because of them that have believed in me, that, at their word, I shall have pity on men... "

So unless you care to refute Jesus own wording in a version of his Scripture that was Authorized until Johns Revelation bumped it which no one knows why! Then please feel free to do so.

But I do make one strong point - Do not use the Apostle Paul as the person to make your arguments as I would rather hear it from Jesus mouth!.