(November 11, 2013 at 11:06 pm)Avodaiah Wrote: ...in one easy-to-find thread!
Hi all, I'm making a list of all the problems people have with Christianity. So please post the ones that are most problematic to you. They can be in the form of questions, insults, logical arguments, or whatever.
I'll try and answer them the best I can.
Among other things, of which there are many, I have a problem with what is basically the core of the christian belief. Different authors give us a story of Jesus' birth, death, and resurrection, and get many details different. From what happened to Joseph and Mary before he was born, to when the last supper was held, when he died, and who was at the tomb. Plus there was supposedly an eclipse, and dead saints rising from their graves, that wasn't mentioned anywhere but in the bible. I've even read that there wasn't even a census that supposedly caused Joseph and Mary to need to move from one town to the other.
Now about Jesus in particular. Supposedly he came to spread the word and save everyone, but Yahweh decided to just send one person down, once in human history, to spend a few years preaching in a backwater part of the world, then dying. Then supposedly being put in a tomb, which was odd because they didn't usually put criminals in tombs anyway. If Jesus was real, and was crucified, he was most likely thrown into a pit with the other criminals and buried there.
So this is supposed to be a sacrifice. If he's part of the trinity, what has God lost from doing that? How is he weaker now than he was before. Jesus was supposedly born, spent thirty years on earth, had an admittedly horrible, torturous week, then went up to heaven to rule the cosmos. That doesn't seem like much of a sacrifice. If I decide to cut off my finger, then have it reattached, what have I really lost in the long run?
Lastly, we get to what we're being "saved" from. If I make a bonfire, gather a crowd together, and tell them to be my slaves or burn to death, I'm not saving them. I'm blackmailing them. This is the biggest problem when you tell people your deity is the originator of all things, and is all powerful. That means he's ultimately responsible for everything. With great power comes great responsibility, and he's the greatest of all.
It's not like he's all knowing or all powerful in the old testament. You have people convincing him to change his mind, or wrestling him to a stalemate, or even beating him with iron chariots. I'm also certain genesis was added after other books, so he wasn't even originally the creator of the universe according to the oldest stories. He was a lesser war god of the canaanite or babylonian pantheon, hence why he was in charge of wars. He was basically the ancient isrealite version of Ares. He spoke to people in person and had an actual personal relationship with them, according to the stories. Not like now, where he's invisible and his very existence is up for debate.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html