(November 24, 2013 at 3:25 am)Avodaiah Wrote: Let's start with the ones on Page 12.
Done; no sweat at all. Next?
(November 17, 2013 at 6:12 pm)Avodaiah Wrote: -Prophecies about Other Countries
Isaiah 45:1 Wrote:Thus says the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have grasped,Babylon's defenses were enormous, at least by ancient standards. Even their walls were more than 70ft thick and 300 feet high. But they had an opening for the Euphrates river to flow through. They diverted it and were able to go through the opening in the wall.
to subdue nations before him and to loose the belts of kings,
to open doors before him that gates may not be closed:
I'm trying to figure out where the prophecy is. All it says is that Yahweh is using Cyrus, which sounds like the ad hoc cop-out someone would add in later to explain why their former war god turned god supreme (at this time, they still believed other gods besides Yahweh existed) could allow them to fall. If Yahweh was their war god, and Babylon defeated Yahweh's favored nation, the inference in those times was that such indicated that the victor nation's gods were greater than the subjugated nation's.
Moving on then from this very easily defeated one.
Quote:Isaiah 14:23 Wrote:“And I will make it a possession of the hedgehog, and pools of water, and I will sweep it with the broom of destruction,” declares the Lord of hosts.This prophecy basically said that Babylon would become swampland. In the 1800s, when archaeologists tried to dig up Babylon, there were some parts they could not dig up because the water table had risen and submerged it.
And you're saying this couldn't have been added later by someone who had already seen that? Further, is there any indication that there was anything special about this? I could 'prophecy' that some small Egyptian town not near the Nile will one day 'be as the great Sahara itself: dry and desolate.' That's very general and easily fulfillable. Clearly I haven't prophecied, yet I have billions of years for that prophecy to become fulfilled. Voila, easy.
Quote:Jeremiah 32 Wrote:36 “Now therefore thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, concerning this city of which you say, ‘It is given into the hand of the king of Babylon by sword, by famine, and by pestilence’: 37 Behold, I will gather them from all the countries to which I drove them in my anger and my wrath and in great indignation. I will bring them back to this place, and I will make them dwell in safety.By 538 BC, the Jews were released from what used to be Babylon, and many of them went back to Israel.
This couldn't have been easily added after the fact as a post hoc rationalization of why their war god had failed them against Babylon? Seriously? Dude, this is what I mean when I say you need to think more critically about these. These are easily explained by human folly and/or malice.
Quote:Nahum 3:15 Wrote:There fire will consume you,This prophecy was directed at Nineveh. Archaeologists have found ash covering the ruins of Nineveh, showing that it was indeed destroyed by fire.
The sword will cut you down;
It will consume you as the locust does.
...Destroying a city with fire is unique? Not only could this have been added after the fact, it could easily have been self-fulfilling. If they wanted to forge a prophecy, clearly they could write down that Nineveh would be destroyed by fire, and then they destroy it by fire. Brilliant! Clearly divine prophecy at work here!
Quote:-Evidence of Jesus's existence
The fact that Matthew, Mark, and Luke knew Old Testament writings and prophecy does make them less reliable. However, John was not learned in these, and his book depicts many of the same details of Jesus's ministry. Apart from the Bible, there are a number of other sources that talk about Jesus.
Yes it does. If you know the prophecies you are clearly in a much better position to make events try to fit them. Further, the Gospel of Matthew (not actually written by 'Matthew', that's just Church tradition with the Gospels) is particularly bad with prophecy. He practically bends over backward to get the Hebrew Bible prophecies to anally pound their way into his ass of an 'account' of what supposedly happened, to the point here he quotes things like Psalms which in context wasn't indicated to be a prophecy at all.