Man's morality

[Drich]

Eh? I thought that was called grace or something. Like some kind of magic metaphorical pixie dust that lets you into heaven if you have enough of it (or do only Catholics think that?). You still wouldn't be adhering to god's standard, though, even if you got a pass to heaven.

There is a very specific 'doctrine of Grace' that some christians use. Because of that i do not use that term so as not to confuse what I am talking about twith the specific doctrine.

And you're 1/2 right. you would not be adhearing to God's Law, but you would be found acceptiable to His standard, because of the attonement He offered and (you) accepted.

Also, you response seems to imply that god made his standard impossible to follow on purpose.

No, Adam followed for some time. It's just because we have been born unto sin, we are no longer able to meet that standard.

And, if I might speculate a bit, not merely impossible because no one would be good enough to follow it, but impossible because it is flawed.

Finish your thought, Flawed how?

So? You already said you will always fall short of god's standard too, so why is this relevant?

Because without absolutes one is subject to the Mob's mentality.

And why is this bad?

No accountablity, No truth, which literally means anything can go. A soceity like this can even justify the slaughter of millions of babies every year, and still feel they have the 'moral high ground.'

And before someone invokes Godwin's law, the Jews did not agree that their being killed was moral. Of course, a community could agree that people outside their community be mistreated and still be internally consistent, but that's a whole other can of worms.

No same can just a little deeper into said can. Put your philosphy aside and look at what History tells us has happened in this very instance. All a soceity has to do is dehumanize a certain portion of the population and all of their human rights are now forfeit. It happened with the Jews in Germany and it happens with unwanted babies in our current culture. all 'we' had to do is strip them of thier humanity, and relable them a fetus which is latin for baby or offspring, but because we changed the meaning of this foreign word to mean a collection of cells somehow the baby is no longer human, and can be killed upto and including the birthing process.

Called it.

I did that with my dad one time. While he was asleep I taped a foot ball game I had already watched and when he woke played it off as a live game, and then proceeded to 'call' every major play before it happened.

In the end he figured it out. the lesson? it's only 'calling it' if you have no way of predicting the outcome.

Or, you know, human empathy. The golden rule is a pretty good moral yardstick in most cases.

Only when compareing apples to apples or humans to humans. All it takes (as history has shown) is a little propaganda, from the majority and any group can be dehumanized, and slated for mass murder.

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Wow alpo, did you really have to go back a whole year to find my last mistake? I guess I am doing pretty well if you had to go back that far to rehash something so you could construct a valid arguement with.

No, that's when I realized you weren't worth a tinker's dam, Drichless. I've spent what little time I devote to your contributions since then silently smirking or giggling.

Maybe you ought to stick with what works.